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I have tried to look around for any posts about this subject but didn´t find any, so I´m sorry if this already exists.

I am wondering what books (and/or homepages) you´d recommend to a beginner to look for?
(Many examples, not so much theory (that´s not my thing)).

Thanx in advance! Cool

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Good authors? Good books?

Wondering what you think of these authors (and these books)?

  • Wooldridge, Mike: Teach yourself visually HTML and CSS
  • Huddleston, Rob: HTML, XHTML, and CSS : your visual blueprint for designing effective web pages
  • Musciano, Chuck: HTML & XHTML : the definitive guide
  • Meyer, Eric A.: CSS : the definitive guide
  • Lowery, Joseph: CSS hacks and filters : making cascading style sheets work
  • Bartlett, Kynn: Teach yourself CSS in 24 hours
  • Zeldman, Jeffrey: Designing with web standards
  • Castro, Elizabeth: Html for the World Wide Web With Xhtml and Css Visual Quickstart Guide
  • Budd, Andy:
    CSS Mastery: Advanced Web Standards Solutions
    Blog Design Solutions
    CSS Mastery
    CSS
  • Niederst Robbins, Jennifer: Web design in a nutshell
  • Andrew, Rachel: Fundamental web design and development skills
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Start by doing the tutorials

Start by doing the tutorials at http://htmldog.com

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I highly recommend Dan

I highly recommend Dan Cederholm's books. Things that had taken me months to realize on my own where right there in the first couple chapters. You just can't beat a good book. There are some great web sites, but many focus on more advanced techniques or they don't go as in depth as a book does with the basic stuff.

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No more good books?

Nobody else that have any suggestions?

It doesn´t have to be of those above (they are just the ones I can find at the library).

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Not everyone finds reading

Not everyone finds reading books to be a useful way of learning web-based stuff. I certainly don't. I've only ever read one book on javascript years ago.

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Books, homepages

Yes, you´re so right, Tyssen, about that. I prefer homepages over books, but I haven´t got any help/learn anything from the homepages I´ve been looking at (and they are many). Sad
So that´s why I know thought I´ve try with books. But there are so many and I don´t know how they are, what is the mainline of the book(Drunk and so on. I don´t want to go and buy any book without knowing anything about it. Tongue

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Tyssen wrote:Not everyone

Tyssen wrote:

Not everyone finds reading books to be a useful way of learning web-based stuff. I certainly don't. I've only ever read one book on javascript years ago.

I agree with one caveat. The internet is rife with very outdated and just plain wrong information. You can trust the experts in the field but even then check the date on the page. That is one of my pet peeves, web authors that don't date their pages.

That said, I do enjoy reading a real book and can suggest the Apress and O'reilly publishers. Just like looking at the date on a site you've also got to look at the date on the books, too. There's nothing quite as disappointing as buying a book on AwesomeTechnology v 2.0 and after it arrives realizing that AwesomeTechnology v 3.5 is already out or coming out next week.

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I find reading a book more

I find reading a book more rewarding then the web in cases like these. I will always learn from a book at first, then move to the web for current news and updates about the industry. I also go to the web for research.

I have books from Andy , Eric and Jeff.

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And they are....?

Okey, I´m totally a newbie here; who are Andy, Eric and Jeff? Surnames?
What kind of books do they have?

I must say that if I´d find a good book, for me, then I think I´d prefer book before web. But since there are so many different books out there, I´m having trouble to know which one is "the one for me" (for example those that from beginning to end teaches how to do a (simple) webpage)... Cool

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photomoon wrote: Okey, I´m

photomoon wrote:

Okey, I´m totally a newbie here; who are Andy, Eric and Jeff? Surnames?

maybe read over your second post in this thread??

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What kind of books do they have?

Amazon.com is s good resource. Make you and read when the book were released, you dont want to be learning out-of-date stuff.

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Newbie as I am

I am not familiar with anyone´s surname´s not to talk about first name´s. Eventhough I had them in my list.. Smile Tongue

You are right about that, that I don´t want a too old book or version. Thanx for the link!

Which one of Dan Cederholm´s book(Drunk would you recommend?
(does any of his book(Drunk show how to build "a site"?)

Do you (for all) know which authours have books like "showing how to build "a site"?

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I am having a look at

I am having a look at "Getting started with CSS" by David Powers at the moment. It seems to cover most of what you will want in an easy to follow format.
Disclaimer they sent me the book to review, which I hope to get round to one day. Smile
http://gettingstartedwithcss.com

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For online learning...

For online learning...I found the site building samples "Floatutorials" on maxdesign.com were of enormous help. Step by step. Tell and show.

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Some easy hints it might will help you if you are just beginer

There are nice tutorial how to make glow effect in flash, it's pretty easy just read the tutorial it's simply wrote every one will understand and it will help trust me! Glasses

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Quote: I agree with one

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I agree with one caveat. The internet is rife with very outdated and just plain wrong information. You can trust the experts in the field but even then check the date on the page. That is one of my pet peeves, web authors that don't date their pages.

That drove me crazy when I was starting! You actually have to know enough to know what to disregard. Fortunately I found my heroes here who set me straight just before I gave up entirely Wink

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I first read CSS: the Missing

I first read CSS: the Missing Manual and I really liked it. It starts with the basic, necessary html and then touches on the UN-necessary htm, all in one chapter, and then goes into CSS. Then picked up "Teach Yourself CSS in 10 minutes" which serves well as a basic reference, though it's nothing special. You don't really learn it in 10 minutes, either. Each tutorial is supposed to be 10 minutes to complete, though that's debatable as well.

I bought one the other day called "CSS Mastery" which is helpful, too, but it claims to be for those who've already become proficient in CSS. Even so, it's not that advanced when you really dig into it. It's useful to me.

A lot of people recommend one called "Head First HTML with CSS & XHTML" but when I looked at it there was way too much chaos in the graphics and it made my head hurt. It also seemed to focus way to much on HTML for me, which really doesn't need half a book's worth of attention. I saw things in there about using tables for layout which seemed contradictory to the later chapters on css. People love it, though, so if it appeals to you. . .

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best book

I would recommend the following.
CSS: The Missing Manual by David Sawyer McFarland

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I put it here then...

Interesting to see if I get any answers... Tongue

I just got Ian Lloyd's book "Build Your Own Web Site the Right Way Using HTML and CSS" as a pdf-file. I would like to have one other similar book, as a book.

Could you tell me, is there also another book that shows from beginning to end how to build a real (but maybe example) web page?

Secondly, what is "the next step" from Lloyd´s book?
It doesn´t have to be a Lloyd-book, any author´s book(Drunk are interesting.