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Hi evry body,

When i discrovered the css, and it s huges advantages compare to old html table layout , i decided to now on only make 100%css websites.
Why css layout are so uncommun. I never saw a very importante web site builded 100%css. Most inclued some, but just for small parts.
How come, with all this advantages?
Is there a bad side of the pure css layout?

Thanks for your opinions on that.
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100% css design? Why so uncommun?

  • It's relatively new
  • Stubborn old jerks refuse to learn a new technique
  • People still pay for bad code
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100% css design? Why so uncommun?

Follow the money. Large sites may have thousands of pages—all laid out with tables. Making those pages conform to css/html tableless criteria is not just a matter of of deling font tags and writing style rules. Those pages must be completely refactored as structured, semantic html with all the hooks for style rules. Even the content must be recovered from convoluted table markup and rewritten.

Many of these large sites are beginning to bring new site areas online as 'proper' html+css, but the old stuff will remain as is for a long time.

There's an old saying, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". There's a corollary, "if it ain't broke, and you try to fix it, it will be". These companies have working sites now. It's unlikely they want to risk their service levels 'just' to go modern.

That said, I recently read that a fairly large venture capital company completely redid their website to be totally valid, well structured, and semantic plus to have a high level of accessibility. Good on them. I doubt that they're a high volume site, and likely a vast majority of the pages are internal or otherwise restricted and probably served up in original document formats, eg. PDF, .doc, .xsw, etc..

cheers,

gary

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100% css design? Why so uncommun?

"If it ain't broke, fix it till it is"

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100% css design? Why so uncommun?

this question pops up from time to time, iirc here is the last thread:

http://www.csscreator.com/css-forum/ftopic9821.html

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100% css design? Why so uncommun?

It's not easy making a full CSS layout.

Correction: It's not easy making a full CSS layout, with a valid doctype, that validates as valid markup.

It's sooooooo easy to toss up a page w/tables in quirks mode, that a lot of people just don't bother trying to get a clean and efficient page running.

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100% css design? Why so uncommun?

Phrozt wrote:
It's not easy making a full CSS layout.
I think it is easy as pie. Smile

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100% css design? Why so uncommun?

depending on what you're doing it can be tricky...

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Phrozt wrote:
depending on what you're doing it can be tricky...


perception really isnt' it? if you have a newbie coming along and asked them to build a webpage with tables and another with css-p, which do you honestly think they'd find easier?

it takes a change in the way of thinking...of course some things may seem easier to develop with tables, but that's because it is probably what you know. if you develop with css only in mind, I find that 99% of the time, I never even consider using tables. except for my tabular date of course Wink

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100% css design? Why so uncommun?

larmyia wrote:
if you have a newbie coming along and asked them to build a webpage with tables and another with css-p, which do you honestly think they'd find easier?
Good point. I'd say the css page would be easier and it would also make more sense. Smile