Canaca

:? :?: :-s

Tisnew this subforum is for discussing matters pertaining to this site really.

Who on earth are Canaca anyway and should I care. A link to them might have been helpful, I'm not going of Googling for them.

As for the other questions, who knows *shrug*

Hugo.

BTW: Tony, forum leader and owner/admin runs a hosting service, which I would feel confident is well run, why do you not check out his deals. Links on the index page and elswhere.

Please view bottom

http//www.csscreator.com/css-forum/forum5.html

And bottom

http//www.csscreator.com/css-forum/index.php

Um, what?

It's a simple question, really. This site is promoting, albeit indirectly through ads, another site named Canaca for hosting purposes.

And the question boils down to whether anyone knows anything about Canaca? And, (much) less importantly, why is some of their display "stuff" weird?

:? Tisnew are they not rotating adds ? I can't catch any link to a company called Canaca.

Ok I have gone off and googled them mores the pity .

One look at the site and packages gave me all the impression I needed.

Have a read of this of this if you want some user feedback:
http://www.webhostingjury.com/reviews/Canaca

It's tricky finding hosts that know what they're doing in this business
Too many fly by nights or disguised re-sellers.

There are forums that specialize in discussing good hosting they are the best place to get an honest report on hosts, but as I mentioned before check out Tony's hosting, if there are any problems you'll know where to find him

Thanks so very much Hugo!

Yes, the ads ARE rotated down there.

And that one, in particular, must have paid more than the rest to get a screen-wide image in lieu of the four (4) text ads.

Of course, when our Bespoken Cache is working correctly "we" continue to see the same goofy ad over and over. (Shoulda left my cache broken...) But it's Friday and time to find a pub so what the heck. I worked "hard" today, making pixie dust as you can see

http//beta-154104.server1.dotnetsandbox.net/Pixel%20Dust%20With%20PNGs.aspx

That page scares me.

- AntiPixelThePixie

Hi Tisnew,
What features are you looking for in a host?

Quite a few things are starting to scare me about this forum lately :?

I have to hide behind my chair when I'm logging in and reading posts, it's just like I was 8 years old again watching Dr Who 8-[

Oh right, I finally get it!

You mean the Google ads at the bottom of the pages - sorry, but adblock takes care of them for me.

Tisnew, you might want to look into using Firefox instead of that godforsaken Internet Exploder.

This thread :roll: Did I start this thing?

Pineapple - I play with Mosaic Firefox too - but am not completely enamored with it either - the icons at the top left look drab and dull. Could those be css'd to be brighter? And as you can see in the PNG thread, it's not performing well either, in this instance. And Mosaic doesn't tell me where its cache is like Explorer does.

(Maybe what this web-world needs is a REAL BROWSER coded in a REAL language - Assembler - by a REAL PROGRAMMER!)

Besides, you really ought to turn off your adblock. These vital pieces of information are there for your benefit. So you can keep up with the latest.

Hugo - pixel dust is meant for 5-years and under. Specifically, my grandchildren ages 5 and 3. You're too old for Pixel Dust if you're 8!
At that age, go get a skateboard or a Hula-Hoop instead!

RoyTheBoy - how did these villages in Kent get their names "Ash, Eastry, Finglesham, Ham, Woodnesborough & Worth"? Ash, Ham and Worth I could guess-at, but the others?

Antibland - I hope you slept okay last night.

Tony - whatever my free Visual Studio Team System 2005 Beta requires.

I signed-up with my current vendor ASPDiscount.Net because it provides all ASP.NET 2.0 support for the Beta. Including a sandbox site for testing. Team System includes IIS, .Net 2.0, MSFT Office Excel, Access, etc. hooks, and other sundry things I don't understand yet... If you have asp.net 2.0 implemented we can talk about this. But I'm not going to pay money for a different IDE so I can go somewhere else. Does that all make sense? I don't know. The pub I found last night had dollar beer. Which might explain alot. It's a lovely place, really. With a deck overlooking the St. Joseph River. And easy to find, too. It's just downstream from the sewage sanitation plant

You're using IE over FF because of 5 icons?

Don't like the look you have? [url=https://addons.mozilla.org/themes/?application={ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}] Change it[/url]. And, if you don't like any of those, do it yourself (the details, I leave as an exercise for the class).


C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\5d3v0hgx.default\Cache

Follow a path similar to that. Each user has his own cache.


C gets close enough, thank you. All I remember from assm and machine code is that the Z80 and 8080 looked to bottom of memory for the starting address, while the 8600 looked to top of memory. And all were little-endian. Or, maybe I don't remember all that much after all.

Do you have compelling reason for those choices? The LAMP solution (Linux/Apache/MySQL/(PHP|PERL|Python)) is essentially ubiquitous. For a truly Enterprise level situation, you might substitute DB2 or Oracle for the db.

In web development, the server and browser( are your compile/run environments. There is no need for an IDE like, say, Borland's Builder series. Get yourself a quality editor with syntax awareness. Many of the good ones are free. I prefer Emacs. There are other misguided souls who will tout other editors. If you still want to 'program', Emacs is an IDE, allowing you to compile, run, and handle the file system directly from the editor. I still can't get it to separate out colors when doing my laundry, but it does everything else just fine.

cheers,

gary

No, they're not. Believe me, there is NOTHING you can say to make me want to view adverts on a web page. I've blocked ALL google ads, inclusing those on Google results and Gmail.

Adverts do nothing but annoy the cr*p out of me. I get enough of them on TV and radio, I don't need them on the internet, too.

Case in point. On stuffandnonsense.co.uk, there was a big article about the crazy frog, and how much they hated it. Smack bang in the middle of the replies was Google Adsense for - yes, you guessed it - Jamster, and downloading the crazy frog.

Adverts don't work, no matter what you tell me otherwise. I hate them and I always will. If I can block them, I will.

As opposed to IE, which displays Alpha Transparency in PNGs so well :roll:

As gary said, there are hundreds of themes for it (my faves being Charamel, Noia, AquaExtreme, LeBreeze, Smoke and FireFox Modern). If you dont like them, create your own. It's basic CSS, which is what we learn here anyway

Don't tell me that IE is better than FF because of the icons. If you so wish, download the IE skin for Firefox, and live in blissful ignorance (my family do!)

Sorry, I didn't realise XML didn't count as a real language

If this thread veers any more off topic, I will split it into "Firefox vs IE". We had about an 8 page debate at the PCF forums about this. It was great

Never let it be said there aren't very bright people in Massachusetts and Texas. Thank You.

I like this part "Many of the good ones are free." It appeals to the Paisley Campbell part of me. In fact, all these vendors ought to be paying us for testing their buggy stuff because we deserve it.

I'll continue with your wonderful suggestions. I would like to learn how to figure-out arizona's shadowed-vertical-popout question with all its numbered em's and such first though.

And before that, I'm off to a rodeo and the finest steakhouse in INdiana. I'm taking my girl, who says "I love your pixie!" So there!

Yep tsWebEditor

Actually I thought I may as well see what the fuss is about and download a copy of Emacs, oh the geekyness of it all takes you half an hour to find how to download it then you have to play around with that funny gzap tagbull stuff , decompress it, compile it run command lines I just want a simple zip file, anyway the ftp windows link was down :roll: - failed exercise. I'll just have to believe Gary when he says it's the hottest thing since sliced bread.

I use emacs when I'm working on my servers via ssh, but I don't like it as it's not intuitive and there are too many key-combinations to remember (as if managing a server doesn't have enough key-combos to remember as it is :roll: ). Give me a good, neat desktop editor any day. I suppose you're now going to tell me that there are loads of different versions of emacs that work as desktop apps too! I shall have to look into this.

As for xml being a programming language: since when has it ever been anything other than a simple means of marking-up data? How is xml a programming language of any kind, let alone a REAL one (which I assume is being used to describe a compiled language)?

And as for programming in hexadecimal: christ, it would take me a year to do in hex what I can do in a day with php - REAL language or not! Get a grip Tisnew - forget your past of 25 years ago; forget all this M$ sh*t; and start getting with the scene man

More likely, an hour of high level code to a year of machine or assm code. I do remember toggling in binary, and thinking 'how cool' to have a hex keypad to do it. I will say you never saw so much bang per byte as in a program written in assembly.


Sorry, head. It's not programming until there is conditional branching. XML is a markup language like html or LaΤεΧ

My gods. Have you no idea just how mature applications like Vim and Emacs are? HTML-Kit seems to be very bug free and I'm sure Hugo's favorite and other free apps are just as clean. In the case of Vim, I believe it's written in C. The source is available to you, so if you think there's a bug, you're free to fix it. Emacs is written in Lisp and is very easy to hack to your heart's content. Meanwhile, if you don't write a buggy hack, it's pretty well bug free.

Open source software is often alpha or beta releases because the community participates in development from the get-go, and if you don't want to participate in development, don't download them. Mature releases offer as bug free an app as can be found with the added advantage of a community support system—all with access to the source. I recall on the Exim list, a bug was noted (one of those bugs that 100 sysads working 100 years wouldn't have run into). Within hours, the author, at Cambridge Univ., UK, was back with a patch. The patch was rolled into the next incremental release. Get that from a commercial, closed source vendor.

[edit] I should note this forum is a free open source app. [/edit]

Yeah, lots of key combos, but how many do you actually use on a regular basis? Not more than 8 or 10, day to day in my case, but I sure am proud to have the others when I need'em. I just think it's great that I never have to leave the keyboard, and wish other editors had the same capabilities. And, yes, there are X-window and Windows versions where you can click to your heart's content

cheers,

gary

kk5(Dallas, Texas - the Greatest State in the Union), thank you for taking your time to talk about and show me so much stuff. My heart is still in Texas, my home for a brief two-year period in a little town called Murphy. Where the biggest news in the Murphy newspaper was that "Pig", the horse. would escape from its corral on a daily-basis and wander around the neighborhood, eating the roses out of the ladies' rose-gardens. And, occasionally, a coyote would be spotted and shot.

"Have you no idea just how mature applications like Vim and Emacs are?"

Nope, but it's on my list now!

"HTML-Kit seems to be very bug free and I'm sure Hugo's favorite"

It's got to be good then )

"Within hours, the author, at Cambridge Univ., UK, was back with a patch."

This might explain why a cowboy in Texas says "Cheers". I'd been wondering how that worked...

By the way, "I'm off to a rodeo and the finest steakhouse in INdiana." The high-school rodeo was great and the steak was even better!

Pineapple "I will split it into "Firefox vs IE". " That's a great idea. This would be way cool, because I keep spotting IE vs. Mozilla Firefox discrepancies specifically having to do with styling issues. There are a great many questions and, hopefully, answers, that might behoove this forum. And your suggestion would be a stupendous place to discover more stuff about this stuff. And bespoke new stuff.

(For a guy named pineapplehead, you seem to wield a whole lot of power! Did you descend from landed-gentry or royalty?)

Tisnew - if it wasn't for IE, this entire forum probably wouldn't need to exist. Do you honestly think that one thread could contain the details of all the differences between IE and FF :? ? Have you learnt nothing in your short time on this forum so far? Do you still prefer IE because the icons are brighter? And as for TPH wielding power: have you never heard of a forum moderator (tip: there'll normally be more than one)? Where have you been for the last ten years? ...on second thoughts: don't answer that

Thank you for asking, roy, "Do you still prefer IE because the icons are brighter?" Yours is a genuine question.

Actually, I do follow-up on my list. I'm a fastidious type ) And thanks to Texas' kk5 pointer, I painted my Mozilla with a wonderfully-bright Silver motif. This is truly a respectable facade now. Yes, better than the IE thing. And seeing as how both the USA and British governments have pissed-away ALL of their above-ground silver inventories over the last century, all the more apropos.

Question What does history teach when the biggest horders of a commodity have none of that commodity left?

Answer A buying-panic on that commodity.

So, for those who are interested, this is THE play.

My last ten years included CICS, ALCS and TPF development environments; where Citigroup, The Chicago Board Options Exchange, USAir and Worldspan, LLP needed someone to fix their broken mainframe stuff. And, because that's what I enjoy doing, I fixed a really lot of stuff.

The mainframe paradigm is way, way different than the web client-server thing. And a learning-curve that anyone can overcome; of that, I am certain.

In touring the csscreator site for an appropriate place to start a thread that discusses the "rendering" divergences among browsers as it relates very specifically to css styling, I just don't find a main level topic item that satisfies this.

I think pineapple's idea is a good one. There's a need for such a main level topic because alot of folks' css styling troubles have to do with the very divergences among browsers. And how to address those differences. I would suggest a generalized main level title of "Browser Divergences". To boil-it down to IE-vs.-FF though is too narrow.

I'm not sure a general discussion is merited on that subject as really this is the general thrust of all the questions on this board and as you read posts you will begin to pick up on those aspects in the posts and replies, but if you feel the need to start one put it in Off Topic area,not the perfect place but it will do .

Hugo.

roy, I'm going to have to plead ignorance about this "if it wasn't for IE, this entire forum probably wouldn't need to exist."

And the reason is, I keep seeing examples in "real world" production sites, where IE displays and functionality works flawlessly.

While, at the same time, my highly-stylized Silverized MozillaFirefox displays are askew and functionality behaves, at best, goofily.

I have yet to land-upon a production site that renders flawlessly in Mosaic and acts peculiar in Internet Explorer.

But were that the case, then a thread within the new "Browser Divergences" Main Topic Category would be very appropriate for discussion.

Then it's settled. A nice Off Topic . . er, topic about Briwser differences is in order. I'll begin it, and get help from the rest of you guys about what to put in.

Really, it will just be an amalgamation of all the hacks and stuff to target different browsers, with links to the websites, designing for all browsers, stuff like that.

THen, when we get a n00b asking why his display doesn;t work in FF< just point them to a 4000 word topic

Pineapple, here's one for starters, addressed to "experts" SEOConsultants.com

"When I look at your example of vertical dropdowns using the newest Mozilla Firefox 1.0.4 release, the six (6) 2nd level vertical popout items appear and disappear randomly. See http//www.seoconsultants.com/css/menus/vertical/

Specifics the main level item "CSS Tips Index" rollover is supposed to pop-out six (6) items to the right, beginning with "Web Safe Colors" and so on...

Yet, if you move your mouse back and forth across the "CSS Tips Index" item, you will find that you have near a 50-50 chance of causing the six items to pop right.

That solution posed does not conform to the specs you've outlined in your tutorial article.

Incidentally, the Internet Explorer 6 XPSP2 browser does conform perfectly 100% to your specifications."

I had it work 100% of the time in FF 1.04.

RedSox Fan(?), if I get you right. Every time you passed your mouse to the right of the 1st level item you got all six vertical items popped-out and they actually stayed there for more than .00001 millisecond so you could mouse down 'em?

Sounds like my next project.

There is actually a glitch point where you can loose focus it's small but there and should be correctable.

Hugo.

Tisnew - do you remember the article I suggested that you read about the API war ( http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html )? ...about how web applications are set to remove the need for a particular desktop environment; about how web application developers are producing near-desktop effects through the humble browser (you'll be amazed at what can be done with a proper browser nowadays e.g. http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en and http://maps.google.com/ ); well keep all that in mind and now read this > http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/wrongWithIE/ I've only read the first few pages but I can see that it should help to enlighten you.

As someone who wastes soooooooo much time dealing with IE's inadequacies and seemingly deliberate attempts to hold back web application development, I find some of your comments quite offensive. If you're half as intelligent as you make yourself out to be, then spend some more time learning before you keep coming out with these stupidly naive statements.

You seem like a really nice, polite guy, and very genuine too. I don't want to pick a fight with you but a lot of what you're saying on this forum is really winding me up. Look for the bigger picture here: wake up and smell the coffee!

I've had the page bookmarked for a while now with the title, "Why things are hard to do". It only gets more aggravating as you read on.

cheers,

gary

You seem like a really nice, polite guy, and very genuine too. I don't want to pick a fight with you but a lot of what you're saying on this forum is really winding me up. Look for the bigger picture here: wake up and smell the coffee!

roytheboy, I share the same sentiment.

Tisnew, have you used the Web Developer extension for Firefox? Try it. You'll probably be embarrassed for expressing how ingenious it was of you for finding and fixing someone's css in such a convoluted way.
To answer a previous question, yes the menu worked flawlessly for me in FF in many attempts, up and down, left and right, into the sub levels, etc. And no, I'm not a Sox fan. I don't care for baseball... Patriots fan though!

Tisnew - also read this (which I have only just noticed) > http://www.csscreator.com/css-forum/ftopic7164.html

Tisnew, don't get the boys wound up, it gets really, really scary when they are off their meds.

If you look at the CSS this is very easy to fix;

div#menu li ul{
position:absolute;
top:0;
left:100.1%;
display:none;
}

They move the flyout menu block 100.1% to the right (by absolute positioning from the left). What happens is that there is .1% of empty space between the main menu and the flyout - this potentially can get rounded up to a pixel. If you mouse over this space slowly the flyout never gets :hover in time and disappears. The solution is to change the 100.1% to 100% or to 10em which is the #menu width. I figured this out using Firefox's Web Developer Extension without which no web developer can function optimally. Edit someone else's CSS on the fly, it can!

Do that with yer stinkin IE

DE

I just love that little green emoticon David - isn't it cute. Ahhhhh! I want to bring it home, and put it on my desk, and feed it Maltesers ice cream, and calm it down, and tell it that everything's going to be okay ...bless

'e's got 'is knickers seriously twisted, wot?

Firefox Smilie Xtra at your service. Unhealthy and potentially habit forming - you have been warned!

DE

Blimey - is it Friday afternoon already!

Go Methane power!

](*,) what have you started David :roll:

C'mon folks, admit it, just tell me:

DE

Oh please not another thread dissolving into emoticon insanity, it's not friday afternoon.
Can we we please regain our group decorum and dignity and address the serious matters at hand.

David your being incorrigible again and leading everyone astray with yet more emoticon madness, just wait until I've re-started FF, shame on you [-X

Thank you, Mr. Elliott.

I did as you suggested and modified the 100.1% to 100%. Your remedy works very well in fixing the Mozilla Firefox problem on the seoconsultants tutorial web page. Your explanation was concise and understandable. Seoconsultants has not replied even still to my question; but you have. In flying colors.

It doesn't explain why wolfcry911" didn't have the same experience though. Maybe it has to do with the chip inside the PC and how fast it is. As I moved slowly, and quickly, across the border it reacted in the same fashion. Maybe wolfcry911 has a very fast chip compared to my Pentium III, 730 mhz.

Your having provided a specific link to the Web Developer - Firefox Extension tool by Chris Pederick helped alot.

https//addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=60

However, before that I had gone to the general area in Mozilla because one of our members had suggested a Web Developer tool in the Mozilla Firefox area, but without a specific link.

https//addons.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php?application=firefox&numpg=10&category=Developer%20Tools

I found forty (40) items to choose from. In a quandry, I selected an item that sounded like the right thing - called Edit CSS version 0.3.2 by Pascal Guimier. This is the product I used to implement your suggestion.

Given your suggestion for a very specific tool, I'll make sure to try Pederick's too. As I'm not certain what would be the "best" choice yet. Maybe you've already chosen Pederick's over Guimier's for a reason. I don't know.

In closing, I appreciate the time you've taken to help me. And, possibly, other neophytes who might read these posts. And I enjoyed the humor you injected into this thread with your dancing around the pub?.

I was beginning to wonder whether there was some cultural issue here - imagining that with July 4 quickly approaching there might be some long-standing historical friction. But it appears that's likely not it.

Instead, it seems much like another forum I'm on - where folks become absolutely vehement about whether it's better to own gold or silver in preparation for the next depression. And still others insist that hording soap, toothpaste and toilet-paper is the real answer to survival when the "mess" comes upon us.

In this particular venue, it's becoming clearer there's a "hot button" among some folks as regards browser ideosyncracies and the firms or organizations that produce these. I've read all the material more than once that was suggested by gurus contributing to this thread.

And at this point, at least in my current web-ingenue-status, all I can come up with is what my kids often say, "What-e-ver!"

Which, in and of itself, says alot.

Now I'm lost.

Anyway, keep in mind the Web Developer extension is a huge memory hog. I uninstalled it.

The web developer extension contains an implementation of editCSS plus a ton of other goodies. If you want to get something like the web developer toolbar for IE, try out the Webtools Pro from Iconico. There is some other neat stuff there as well.

As for your other observation - I suspect that processor speed may well have something to do with how fast you update your mouse position to the browser window to decide "where" your cursor is at a particular point in time.

DE

TPH

The web developers extention has a disable button which I am sure should disable it from using RAM and hogging up the system.

Tisnew

I use b-one.net as server of choice, they are very cheap very reliable and have everything I could wish for, and they keep on getting better.

Also all adverts suck on all media. Firefox looks best in it's perfectly stripped back standard skin.

CSS Creator God

What the hell was this thread about anyway.

I'll go now :oops:

Why, what's happening on July 4th? Is it the Queen's birthday?

I don't know about all that Queen-stuff (actually I do because part of my mongrel-heritage includes Queen Victoria's personal physician Lord Lister).

But what I'm really vexed-about and trying to figure-out at the moment is why roy posted a link to http//maps.google.com/ as an example of a really cool firefox thing, when all it does is go from North America to the Pacific Ocean to North America again. And there's no England in between?!? Why is that?