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Hi

I find that Dreamweaver MX 2004 has a lot of support for style sheets and accessibility checking though it does fall short in some aspects. One of which is that it does not seem to be WYSIWYG when dealing with style sheets...have others found this too?

I have a layout which displays well in N6 and IE6 but is all over the place in Dreamweaver. What I am wondering is - is this my coding or dreamweaver? Laughing out loud

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I find that true also. Only way around it that I know of (and I am new to CSS also) is to just preview it in the browser. Many will probably tell you to just code it in notepad or another text based editor.

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Htown Dirty wrote:
I find that true also. Only way around it that I know of (and I am new to CSS also) is to just preview it in the browser. Many will probably tell you to just code it in notepad or another text based editor.

Yes, many will - especially on this forum. But there are better text-editors than notepad (although, notepad is better than DW). Many are free, some cost a reasonable amount of money, but are generally well worth the modest price.

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Yep. Use one like Homesite that highlights keywords and sorta checks for some errors.

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HTML Kit is an excellent editor - and it's free!

You can download it here: http://www.chami.com/html-kit/download/

My strategy is so simple an idiot could have devised it!

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I use notepad2, don't quite remember it but you can always google it.

It's pretty much notepad but it highlights your code correctly and it does so for many different kinds of languages. Pretty nifty really.

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www.flos-freeware.ch

Lovely thing, fits on a USB stick

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Is this what you use TPH (along with the rusty spoon)

My strategy is so simple an idiot could have devised it!

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Emma this does sound like your asking us to go over old ground here :roll:

http://www.csscreator.com/css-forum/ftopic9845.html

It will just prompt those time honoured rants against 'The Prince of Thieves' 'Father of Lies' the great Leviathan. Oups

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Rusty spoon?

Yep, lov notepad2 to bits - especially alt+0 (open a new blank window) and the transparency thing (can't remember the shortcut).

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An editor not commonly known but that i've grown to love is tsWebEditor (free) Its got a simple interface not cluttered as html-Kit tends to be (although I do like it)
tsWebEditor has syntax highlighting for over 20 languages, formats to Unix and Mac, built in syntax checking for PHP and html-tidy, code completion if you want it, context code help, but best of all it uses a tabbed page layout, at the moment I have 19 files open across the top bar and can switch between them in an instant, very fast little program that doesn't try to be too helpful unless you want it to be.
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I hand-code in dreamweaver MX.

So I am relying on my own coding and not Dreamweavers, I don't think there is any problem with doing it this way.

I like the fact that I can use it as an FTP program aswell as a coding program, file name/link changer, find and replace masses of code and it obviously does a hell of alot more. I like the fact that it's all contained in one program.

Only an idiot would rely on previewing their work in Dreamweaver, thats not even the point in Dreamweaver.

So I am for using Dreamweaver, but only in code view because it provides alot of handy tools. I stay clear of the graphic view, can css even be created in the graphic view? I am not sure it can.

I could still use a txt editor when needed.

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Hi
Thanks for the links to other editors.

I did not think I was going over old ground, I know many think Dreamweaver is not up to the job but last time I enquired about using DW templates.

I will refrain from any other Dreamweaver questions as it is obviously a touchy subject here despite being a web design industry standard tool! It's just that was one of Macromedia's main selling points - that it is supposedly WYSIWYG.

I don't rely on previewing in dreamweaver as I have to accessibility test some websites for every single browser but DW does have some automated checking & code validation which helps. I have a need for fast turnaround in my job and I am a beginner with css.

We shall never speak of it again! Tongue

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Emma wrote:
web design industry standard tool!

Hehe that's a bold claim Laughing out loud

The problem with WYSIWYG things in my opinion is they tend to produce terrible, bloated, unmaintainable code as a rule and as such for proffesional sites should be avoided.

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Emma, you may talk of it again if you really have to Smile but you get an idea of how it's regarded.
This is not without reason, interestingly in some ways you have just summed up why by your remark "web design industry standard tool" they may say it is but this is what gets me annoyed as they actually are attempting to corner a market that doesn't exist it's a lie, they convince people that you can only produce sites using DW and you only have to look at the adds seeking web designers that must be skilled in DW. Why ? I don't need DW to code web pages why do I need to be skilled in it's use. Or take the example of some young suited smarmy marketing types that I overheard in a cafe, happy now that they had bought a copy of DW they could produce and maintain their own web site #-o .

I have just been thinking what does WYSIWYG really offer and why is the reviled 'preview' mode so bad?
Harping back to HTML-Kit, I was playing with it the other day, you can use many drag and drop code functions/html tags etc and it also has a preview mode which you can tab to, I was trying to trip it up but it seemed to give an absolutely faithful rendition of the page in IE mode compared to rendering in the actual browser and it has all the tools that are constantly mentioned for DW such as validation, HTML-Tidy, FTP, and it also has far far better support for CSS.

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