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I saw this story on Zdnet.com (http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5721852.html?tag=nl.e589). Basically Windows users have been told to uninstall Netscape 8 because its affects the way IE renders XML documents (which is at best very basic). But isn't it the case that if you have installed Netscape 8 or any other alternative browser like FF you are using because you are choosing an alternative to IE.

But the thing that gets me is the comments left by people as the it just turns into massive microsoft vs anything else bashing session that just seems to be getting worse. Now I'm not about to stand up for microsoft or apple or the open source community. The reason for this is because we can choose to use windows or osx or even linux. We can use IE or FF or N8. We have choice. We should be grateful for having these good alternatives out there. I dumped IE last year and started using FF and am very happy. I switched over to the Mac (only to switch back because I use GIS software only available to the PC, but the Mac is my preferred platform for web production). Basically what I am saying is that you should use what you feel most comfortable with and feel at ease with whether that may be with OS X, a Linux box or even windows. Most people in the end just want to get tasks done. Just because you use a particular system it doesn't mean that you are a particular breed of human being like some people would like to believe.

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IE users told to uninstall Netscape 8

I agree with the sentiment of this post.

If someone chooses to use a platform or browser, then that's their choice. but eduction is needed as people are basing their choices on what is forced upon them and/or what they already know.

so, if someone makes a valid choice they should not be put down out of hand. but when you go to other forums/publications/etc, they all end up bashing the platforms/browsers that they aren't using.

however, I do think it's worth pointing out that although there are lots of choices out there...but if you don't know about them, how can you make that choice? it is partially up to the user to investigate options, but the difficulty is, if you don't know there is a choice, how can you investigate it???

I hope this makes sense. It's late. I'm tired.

larmyia

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IE users told to uninstall Netscape 8

I too agree with the sentiments of the post BUT without the bashing sessions a lot of people would not know about the alternatives to Windows or their advantages over the 'Microsoft way' AND it is extreemly difficult to maintain a balanced view about the whole state-of-play when you waste soooooo many manhours hacking CSS code to work on that sh*t bit of kit called Internet Explorer (oops - failed again!).

Life's a b*tch and then you die!

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IE users told to uninstall Netscape 8

I agree that discussion is needed. without coming on here and reading all the pro-FF discussions I might still be using IE6 and Dreamweaver. Oh my god! the thought!

the point is that on here there is discussion. we say why IE isn't as good as FF/et al, why people shouldn't use DW. but I think what James is referring to is when people reply to posts/articles just being rude about everything else, without any valid argument. and without adding anything to the discussion.

for many of these people there can be no discussion because they are blinded by their love and belief in the products they use. they are blinkered.

one last point is that on this forum is that there are actually discussions pointing out the difficulties with CSS, problems with FF (hey, we know it's not perfect!), etc. which is how it should be.

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IE users told to uninstall Netscape 8

Microsoft want to eliminate every opponent at every means possible.
Their use of their publishing and coding power is extremely wrong. :?

Wrote this reply on my FF, and enjoyed a lot![/i]

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its affects the way IE renders XML documents

IE b*ggers up XML documents anyway, regardless of other browser installed. It gets thrown into Quirks mode by the XML prolog, for goodness sake.

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