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Some juicy info on IE7 beta coming this summer.

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,1995,1776290,00.asp

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It doesn't really say a lot.

They probably won't embrace the standard. They will try to integrate it with some other microsoft product that we probably don't want.

I suspect, they will conform to their normal behaviour. Market research will be undertaken to discover which features of rival browsers (aside from not being an MS product) causes users to move from IE. Those features will be implemented in IE7. Embracing standards will not necessarily be a huge part of that, as with the majority of the market share, MS can still claim anything that they don't support is not a standard just a feature on a minority of browsers.

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Hm doesn't say much , although I was interested to see that MS have decided to u-turn on the policy of only releasing IE7 with longhorn and that it will now be released as a standalone download.

Starting to run scared of FF methinks Smile

Regardless of how it may be released I think we shouldn't hold our breath over much improved support for CSS2.
MS have made it plain I think, that they are not interested in the standards any longer and are going to do little to support them.

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Man, you guys are too negative. The article didn't say ms was picking up standards by its wiggling tail and dropping it into the toilet. It said in was uncertain to what extent they would add CSS2 support. Obviously, we'd all like full CSS2 support, a conformance to the DOM event model, and even some decent CSS3 support, but this won't happen in its entirety. At least we'll get multi alpha-channel support for PNG, right? Cheer up a little bit, you may get more than you think. Also, I tried making it clear than details were "leaked." What did you expect, some biblical flood of information :-({|=

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Nah, I'm not negative Oups
just weary and very cynical regards anything that MS says and have seen too many bloody U-turns and contradictions.

My remarks were rather more based on other things that I have read (and wished I had bookmarked) where MS people talked at length at the corporate distrust of the standards and of the W3C itself and they hinted that the support for and further inclusion of CSS recommendations was possibly doubtful, having said that I'm sure that they will add support for PNG that was a stupid oversight on their part, although from what I've also read independent programmers have said that in actual fact MS could have quite easily have included support for PNG via an update ?.
My supposed negativity is also not helped by the fact that MS have announced their interest in developing their own proprietary scripting language to rival HTML which would be an absolute disaster
and smacks to me of a new eave of spoiler tactics to rival the ghost of the browser wars.

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pollyanna in a blender

Nevermind, we're screwed.

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Exactly, but who's being negative now Smile

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Hey, the phrase "pollyanna in a blender" was my admittance of latent negativity. I lose, friend.

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Why would they withhold support for PNGs and CSS in the first place?

Then, Microsoft does things like not release the newest version of IE for Mac on purpose.

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SirBriggs wrote:
Then, Microsoft does things like not release the newest version of IE for Mac on purpose.

...and what a great loss to mankind that has been Crying :roll:

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