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Am I the last to notice that Big John has gone subscription on his articles?

I guess that's good for John and Holly, but the quality and clarity of the articles makes his /*PIE*/ the place to send newbies (and to show up for refreshers, myself). I really don't want to send folks needing basic help to a pay site. :shrug:

not so cheered,

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Big John and Holly Bergevin go pay per view

PIE is/was good but part of what made it good was all the other gurus who also pitched in with suggestions of new techniques (like Tony here) or improvements on older ones - I don't think they will get nearly the exposure now and the quality will deteriorate so that eventually you pay more for less.

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Big John and Holly Bergevin go pay per view

Well bugger me you right , at least some appear to have been transferred to community mx a subscription based site a site I dislike due to the revenue based access and the fact that it deals with Dreamweaver, Flash, and other rubbish Smile

What a sad end to the day, these articles have been around for long enough, freely available , if you ask me this is a bit of a cheek, I can understand them possibly only publishing new articles this way but to take old ones out of circulation is just a little bit low and diminishes their reputation in my eyes.

Where do we send people now those were invaluable articles
Where's the spirit of the net going? maybe we ought to charge for our advice here after all it's crazy that we actually help people from the goodness of our hearts, give our time for free want to foster and be a part of that original spirit.

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Big John and Holly Bergevin go pay per view

Hm, the problem for them in withdrawing these articles and expecting us to pay is the fact that they may have overlooked the internets ability to archive.

Still fresh in Googles cache (not sure for how long and they can be cleared on request) are these pages:

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Sn4fTLK5cA4J:www.positioniseverything.net/articles/float-bugs-1.html

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:WNDYxsMnSBEJ:www.positioniseverything.net/articles/float-theory.html

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:u6L7pNnTJOMJ:www.positioniseverything.net/articles/hollyhack.html

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:ODif8jltVroJ:www.positioniseverything.net/articles/flow-pos.html

Also and perhaps more permanently as the projects nature is, are these snapshots from the :
Archive.org Wayback Machine


http://web.archive.org/web/20040202075436/http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/float-bugs-1.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20031207054833/http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/float-theory.html

If these persist it makes the exercise slightly pointless they should have just stuck to new articles.

I have of course "memorized" these pages.

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