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Hi All! I'm new here Cool and beginner with CSS..

I just finish my work one my new site about acronyms and I made the vertical menu by Front page Applet code..

But when I finished I found that not all browsers can view it :?

One of the friends told me that it's better for me to use CSS menu!
So.. what do you think :?:


I'll be very thankful if you help in my first steps Laughing out loud

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Mini_click wrote:
One of the friends told me that it's better for me to use CSS menu!
So.. what do you think :?:
I'd say yes, your friend is correct.

If you would have used CSS I wouldn't have closed the window before it could load (I did wait 20 seconds before shutting the window though).

I really can't believe java applets are still used.

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Ghada in all honesty considering the complete car crash of a page that you have there I'm not sure that were going to be able to help very much, you have a whole heap of problems to sort out first and I'm afraid that this means your going to have to apply yourself to the study of some basic CSS/HTML to some extent completely rethinking what your doing.

We could point you in the direction of CSS menus but unless your page is validating and rendering in Standards Mode I wouldn't like to say that they would work.
I mentioned it in your other post , but the biggest favour you could do yourself is to dump Frontpage, it has nothing to do with standards compliant coding and will likely never produce cross browser code.

Sorry to seem so brutal but if you really have an interest in web designing/development then it's time to start learning a little about the craft, that's especially so if as this page states it's a resource for webmasters providing internet technical information.

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One of the friends told me that it's better for me to use CSS menu!
So.. what do you think Question

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I'd say yes, your friend is correct.

Okay! Thats why I came here...

I have to tell something, I'm Interior designer! web design for me is only a hobby that I wish to improve it by days Smile is it impossible :!:

pls don't be that hard on me and talk to me as Beginner not dump Sad :oops: Wink

Arrow What do I have to use instead of Front Page to design pages? or do I have to write down all the code myself?

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Arrow What do I have to use instead of Front Page to design pages? or do I have to write down all the code myself?
Actually, that is the easiest, most practical way to create cross-browser and standards compliant web pages. HTML is not rocket science, nor is css. Like anything beyond the trivial there is a bit of RTFMing involved and to become expert requires more than a bit of work. Frontpage, and Dreamweaver to a lesser extent, turn out crap-for-code.

It's a choice. If you want to exhibit some degree of competance, you will eschew the use of such 'aids'. If you don't mind the appearance of being a no-talent couldn't-be-bothered-to-learn-anything "web designer", you'll stay with Frontpage.

I hope that's not a tough choice.

cheers,

gary

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You could do worse than pick up a copy of HTML-KIT ( free ) which is a feature rich editor that does help you along the way with things like templates, code snippets, colour coding etc and it won't mangle your code or produce anything too proprietary.

One thing to attempt to do from the outset is get in the habit of working in a source code view that is to get used to reading and working with the actual html rather than a WYSIWYG view it will stand you in far better stead in the long run and alow you to actually grasp how the code is constructed and make you a far stronger coder, don't be put off it seems daunting to start with but is actually easier than first imagined.

But be cautioned "improve it by days" if by that you mean you wish to learn it overnight, forget it, it will take time and practise, there are no short cuts I'm afraid.

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I think you will become a better designer when you have to code all these things yourself. Very quickly you will decide that some of the frills and knickknacks(sp?) on your page are the web equivalent of a very fussy interior design that completely chops up the interior space and flow of a home. Just because Front Page lets you do it - it doesn't mean you should. It is OK to use all those little animations and javascript menus and such. Get them out of your system. . .

Then sit down and create a minimalist, robust, flexible, clean page and we will go ohhhhhh ahhhhhhh - that person knows how to design.

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