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hey there,
please have a look at my beta site...

Tested with IE 6, Opera 7 and Firefox 1.0 so far. Opera screws everything up. Sad
A friend told me it doesn't work with Safari and IE 5.2 under OSX. So if there are any mac users out there: please drop a few words how it looks on mac.

http://beta.hendrikwill.com/index.php?site=home

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problem with mac IE 5.2

Looks fine on mac Firefox1.0.

On both MacIE 5.2.3 and Safari 1.2 (latest versions of both, using the latest system OSX 10.3.8 ) it tells me that this:

http://beta.hendrikwill.com/imageData.xml

can't be found. Leaving me with this:

Additionally, the nav bar isn't centered in any of them (don't know if this was intentional or not), and IEMac only shows the "home" link in the nav bar, no others.

Sorry. (!)

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problem with mac IE 5.2

Omniweb: ditto, the xml data page can't be found.

Camino is great, no problem.

Netscape 7.2 (Gecko) is great too.

Opera 7.54: the nav menu is vertically, not horizontally aligned, throwing everything off. But the content does load.

hope this helps,
H

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problem with mac IE 5.2

thank you for your quick reply, Helen. I'll try to fix this by tomorrow. Would be great if you could test it again then.

-hendrik

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problem with mac IE 5.2

okay, the flash error with IE 5.2 and Safari under OSX should be fixed.

Helen, I would really appreciate if you could check again. Smile

Solution:
http://blog.deconcept.com/2004/10/14/web-standards-compliant-javascript-flash-detect-and-embed/
http://blog.deconcept.com/2004/10/20/web-standards-flash-embedding-part-2/

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problem with mac IE 5.2

Yes!

It's now working in Mac Safari, Opera, Firefox, MacIE, Omniweb, Shiira, Camino, Netscape. Nice work.

However, the navbar menu is still vertical & unclickable in Opera, and in MacIE you only see the 'home' link in the center of the bar, no others.

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problem with mac IE 5.2

okay, I added the following code to my #navcontainer ul:

	display: table;
	width: 100%;
	table-layout: fixed;

it should be clickable and horizontal in opera now.

any changes to mac ie 5.2?

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problem with mac IE 5.2

Alas, no. Screenshot:

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problem with mac IE 5.2

Opera much better, nav links do click now:

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problem with mac IE 5.2

thanks again for the screenshots, Helen. Smile

Any ideas how to fix the mac IE 5.2 issues? Sad

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problem with mac IE 5.2

hen wrote:
Any ideas how to fix the mac IE 5.2 issues? Sad
I vote for rounding up those that still use it (along with Netscape 4) and taking away their computers and dropping them off in the desert.

Laughing out loud

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hahaha Laughing out loud

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okay, I've tried something else...
could you have a look with mac ie 5.2 again, please? Smile

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problem with mac IE 5.2

Interesting effect ... but no. :?

I ditto Triumph's modest proposal (I have it, sure, but I don't USE it.)

Here's my suggestion: MacIE hates floats. For the floated menu, use this hack for MacIE where you have left-floats:

* html>body div#navcontainer li {float:none; display:inline-block;}

Does it work?

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problem with mac IE 5.2

okay, I just added the code in a seperate css-file with this method:

/*\*//*/
  @import "ie5mac.css";
/**/ 

hopefully it'll work. Smile

If this won't work I'm gonna try to give each LI-element a width...

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problem with mac IE 5.2

Rats. No change. Sorry. Are we sure MacIE is picking up that hack? Can't you just add it right in to the regular CSS? It uses the selector that hides it from everybody else anyways.

I wish I weren't so new at this, there's gotta be an easy answer ...

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problem with mac IE 5.2

or what about using display:inline for the whole nav list, instead of using floating?

This simple one, for example, works fine in my MacIE:
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal01.htm

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problem with mac IE 5.2

I just tried it. Shows me a vertical list in IE and Firefox Sad

I'm gonna try it with a fixed width.

btw. I sent you a PM.

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okay, I just added a width for every LI-element.
could you test it again?Smile

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problem with mac IE 5.2

It works! It works! It's not completely perfect (there are some odd white pixel-high borders along the first few buttons), but it is darned close, and probably as good as it needs to be for that small audience.

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problem with mac IE 5.2

awwwww...this made my day Laughing out loud

I think the odd pixels are two buttons which just dropped down. I'll give the buttons a little less width and it'll be perfect.

Laughing out loud

thank you for testing and suggestions.