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Hey all,

I just got my page up it seems validated, but any suggestions ,ideas or insults are humbly welcome Smile. Thanks for your attention!


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Hi,

It looks good on FF_Mac but here is some constructive criticism as requested:

I like the blue header but it takes up rather a lot of screen space for those with low-res monitors. The grey text is a little too grey on a Mac monitor with it's lighter gamma setting. The text is set in pixels which means that IE users will not be able to change the size. There are too many <h1> tags and this may cause problems with search engine spiders (or maybe not). You have used a lot of absolute positioning but this is asking for trouble in many different ways. Try to use floats if you can.

On the whole, I like the look and feel Smile

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Whilst the home page's HTML does indeed validate the deepers pages under projects don't seem to alas.

You appear to have chosen empty alt tags for you project images - is there any reason for this?

The Word and PDF links to your resume are not links, are they meant to be?

Other than that it looks really very nice - I especially like your CowDog sketch, it's strangly pleasing!

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Wow! this is really a feedback!!

This are suggestions I'll really work on...

briski: The empty alts will be filled with a simple asp instruction (something I honestly forgot to do...) the jigsaw validator didn't warn me about it though... :!:

Roy: what are the downs and lows on absolute positioning? I'd like to get more insight on this topic.,..(any thread or link you can suggest?)_

The pdf and word will be linked to pages soon....

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nice site... but i get a horizontal scroll and my res is at 1600x1200 Shock

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colombopablo wrote:
Roy: what are the downs and lows on absolute positioning? I'd like to get more insight on this topic.,..(any thread or link you can suggest?)_

I am not experienced enough to give you the best answer on this one, but many of the other regulars to this forum are, so I am hoping that someone else will give you a good answer ...PLEASE!

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Basically, absolute position is a very bad idea, unless you know exaclt what you're doing. Most sites have no need for absolute positioning.

(However, the three column layout at PIE uses absolute positiong well - check it out)

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This is a very cool site! The only comments I'd make are that the home page has a slightly Bloggerish look to it and that I don't like the way the links move ever so slightly when you roll over them.
But other than that, top stuff - gives me brief inspiration to get off my arse and get around to doing my own portfolio site (which has been on the drawing board for about 3 years!).

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thepineapplehead wrote:
Basically, absolute position is a very bad idea, unless you know exaclt what you're doing. Most sites have no need for absolute positioning.

I not so sure I would go so far as to say it's a very bad idea, you just have to know when to use it and that the effects will be.

If you absolute position something it is removed from the document flow so if it gets bigger it won't push anything out of the way to make room, this can cause overlapping if you are not carefull.

On the other had it can be helpful. If you have an element of your HTML that should sit in the main area (after navigation, before copyright etc or some such senario) but you want it visually in the header cause that's where your boss told you to put it. You really shouldn't be moving around your HTML to make it more convinient to make look nice, that defeats the point of correct semantic markup, you should just be using the CSS to position things, In this instance I have found it to be useful I have to say.

I fail to see why is bad if you're positioning things at say the top or side of a page above any expandable content or where it's expansion will not overrun any other elements?

Like all thinks in CSS you just need to think about what is the most appropriate method.

Absolute positioning was added to CSS for a reason and I'm sure it has a usefull place in all our lives... Then again I sould get out more maybe Laughing out loud

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I still stick by my post. Unless you know what you are doing, using absolute positioning can create some very strange and bad results.

Also, like I said, most sites do not need absolute positioning. I've only used it once - and only for a three column layout.

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That's a good answer briski,
The problems with absolute positioning tend to stem from the misguided approach in using it to attempt the overall page layout
forgoing the natural flow of the page.
It does have it's place and can be useful when one needs to position an element within another and have it remain relative to the element regardless of changes.
It really is a device for positioning elements once the layout is established as far as I see it although there are some decent two column layouts that do use AP sidebars.

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Don't get be wrong it's not the easiest of thing to use and not break anything, it's requires carefull thought, but it's not bad to use it.

In addition I would I think not use it for positioning huge chunks of stuff like columns, I can't see a need for it there. But I still maintain that it can be useful if you don't want to get into the habit of changing the structure of your HTML to match the design.

I may have missunderstood but the way you spoke of if I thought you meant that it was bad ala using tables is bad as in wrong. I now see you might not have meant this, my bad Wink

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My understanding of absolute positioning is that it can also cause unnecessary problems with cross-browser compatability as this is one of the areas of CSS in which the different (less popular) browsers differ greatly.

The overall trend of thought here seems to be that you should not use absolute positioning unless you have to, and then only to adjust or position individual elements within an otherwise relatively positioned layout.

Correct?

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My opinion is thus

Absolute positioning does exactly what it says and thus should only be used when you want something to be positioned in exactly (absolutely) the same position all of the time regardless of the content etc. around it.
Therefor it is ideally suited for a fixed width/height layout where nothing is ever meant to get bigger with font-sizes etc.

For a fluid layout e.g. one that resizes/changes with screen resolution/font-size etc. you should not use absolute positioning for elements in the page whos position is relative to a fluid element.
For example you should never absolutely position your footer so that it is below your fluid content div becuase as the text gets smaller or bigger so the content div will resize causing your footer to be positioned in the wrong place.

As to cross browser support for absolutely positioning it is rather more consistent than the mess that are floats.

As a rule of thumb I only use absolute positioning for things at the top of the document e.g positioning some links over the header etc.

Hope all of this makes sense to someone out there

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tom_de_schlong wrote:
As to cross browser support for absolutely positioning it is rather more consistent than the mess that are floats.

I was referring more to absolute positioning within other divs more than to absolute positioning within the viewport. I believe that when you start nestling AP divs, you can hit problems with some of the less popular browsers. And personaly speaking, of all the problems I have trying to code for half-a-dozen different browsers, floats are never a problem once you are able to code around IE's box model.

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Thanks guys! This discussion has really been insightful. I will try to experiment more with abs. positioning till I get the hang of it....

I think Listamatic has a couple of tutorials on abs. positioning that I'll try when i'm less tight on time..

Anyone has other links/resources on abs. positioning?

Tyssen, what links are you referring to?

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Tyssen, what links are you referring to?

The links on your portfolio page. When viewed using Firefox, there is an ever-so-tiny shift to the right & up (I think) when you rollover the links.

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My understanding of absolute positioning is that it can also cause unnecessary problems with cross-browser compatability as this is one of the areas of CSS in which the different (less popular) browsers differ greatly.

The overall trend of thought here seems to be that you should not use absolute positioning unless you have to, and then only to adjust or position individual elements within an otherwise relatively positioned layout.

Correct?

Absolutely.

(Sorry, couldn't resist! Laughing out loud )

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