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I would like one of our many sites converted to CSS. Please pm me if you are experianced and interested in doing this freelance. Examples of your work are required and testimonials would help also.

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I'm not interested in taking on any new work thanks, but if you want some sensible replys, try providing a little more information. I mean, come on: what country are you in for a start :roll: ...what sort of business are you in? ...what is the size of the site? Don't you think that potential suppliers are going to want to know these things :-k

...or are you just trying to see how other designers sell themselves, because that's what people might think!

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would never be a programmer

I am a markerter in the US (CALIFORNIA), and have a financial site. Trust me, I would never be a programmer, I don't have the hair to spare!

I appreciate you letting me know you are too busy to take on new work.

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Re: would never be a programmer

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I am a markerter in the US (CALIFORNIA), and have a financial site. Trust me, I would never be a programmer, I don't have the hair to spare!

That will help for starters.

Next, are you looking for a programmer? ...or an application developer? ...or a designer? Although some people can do all three things, they are separate disciplines requiring separate skill-sets. Converting a site to CSS might require one or all of these skill-sets, depending upon the complexity of the site.

You probably see me as trying to be awkward, but I am actually trying to help you in my own brash little way Wink

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programmer

No we would need a programmer, we already have an effective design. We would like the content spidered before the nav bar, header and footer for the search engines.

A tableless CSS template is what we need at the moment. We can actually convert the entire site.

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From what you say, I suspect that you don't actually need a programmer, unless your site has been written in a compiled language like Perl. It sounds to me like you need a CSS designer that can layout webpages according to an existing design concept. So why not try again with words to the effect of:

"Experienced CSS layout designer with working knowledge of search engine optimisation techniques required to convert tabled webpage template to a CSS structured and styled template for a financial services website. Client is based in California, US, and would like to hear from freelancers... etc. etc."

There. Do you see how much time that is going to save you and others by being more specific about your requirements?

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Roy:

I c, thanks Roy, that is a lot clearer. I did not know there was such an animal as a "CSS designer" I thought programming encompassed that.

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The exact words used to describe the different sorts of people you find in our trade are changing all the time, as the technology changes. I just made up the term 'CSS layout designer' but anyone with the right skills would understand exactly what you are looking for from this title i.e. someone who can design webpage layouts using CSS. There are probably many other names for such practitioners, but as long as everyone understands what is being talked about, who cares!

To be more specific (and general at the same time :? ), a programmer deals in the nuts and bolts of the code that instructs a computer to carry out specific tasks. They generally work with languages such as C and Python. Perl was not the best example for me to use above as this is more of a scripting language, but let's not get into that. Generally speaking, a programmer does not get too involved in issues of layout, design and usability.

A web application developer will usually use scripting languages like PHP and ASP, which do not need to be compiled and so are very easy to work with to build applications that run on the web.

A website designer will understand HTML and CSS (hopefully) and will have a creative eye for design. They should also understand information design and usability issues. And SEO issues too. And accessability issues. And... I'm sure you get the picture.

These are very simplified descriptions and you must understand that in our rapidly changing business, the boundaries are moving all the time. You often find one person with multiple skill-sets, but most stick to one of these disciplines.

You'll probably now find lots of posts disagreeing with me, but I'm just trying to give you a feel for the type of people that you might want to hire.

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I think this topic is best moved out of "Beginners CSS Questions" this is a forum for the discussion of CSS and for obtaining help with pages ones working on.
"Off topic" is more suitable for this sort of request.

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Truly excellent reply there, roytheboy. First prize this week in the "Off topic" category Tongue

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Truly excellent reply there, roytheboy. First prize this week in the "Off topic" category Tongue DE

I beg to differ your honourship Smile . The original post may well have been off topic (which I cannot do anything about), but my replies have been very much on-topic to the post and, hopefully, helpful.

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roytheboy wrote:
...but my replies have been very much on-topic to the post and, hopefully, helpful.
My point, exactly! I'd have liked to have you at my side recently as I was attempting to write my new Position Description - I'd have gotten a raise for sure.:roll:

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Oh, sorry DE - I thought you were being sarcastic :oops:

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still have not found a programmer

either way, we still have not found a programmer / css designer / webpage guy that can give us a sufficient template in tableless CSS. Regardless of the symantics.

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