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This is the main page for

This is the main page for the Lunarwiki You'll see "Guide to Using Addon Domains" under Control Panel Hosting Help. It doesn't really reflect what I see but you may understand it better. :shrug:

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Sounds good to me! I

Sounds good to me! I understand this (finally and at last Smile

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Hugo wrote:I apologise but

Hugo wrote:

I apologise but I'm still struggling to get my head around the term 'addon' it strikes me as a control panel invention to some degree, and I'm having difficulty translating it to something I understand.

Yes, its a cpanel invention, http://www.cpanel.net/docs/cpanel/Addon_Domains.htm

The shared hosting cpanel gives you one set of directories, generally with a web root one directory below an ftp root. The subdomains and addon domains are then available as subdirectories of the main web root.

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I think I forgot an important bit of information which will make sense to you...these 'addon' domains are set up under the public_html directory in the topdomain (accont name).

You have to watch this. Its possible the pages may be accessible (and possibly broken) from "umbrelladomain.com/addondomain" or "umbrelladomain.com/subdomain".

I'm not ensure how you have everything going, but it sounds like its all working for you. If you are unsure about how the transfer will progress, setup your own domain elsewhere(*), stick a web page on it, duplicate it on an addon domain at LP, then do the DNS transfer.

(*) webspace and domains don't cost much in relation to your time. You could even pick something up at the old site host.

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Hi Chris... Quote:The

Hi Chris...

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The shared hosting cpanel gives you one set of directories, generally with a web root one directory below an ftp root. The subdomains and addon domains are then available as subdirectories of the main web root.

This sounds like what I see - I log into topdomain and sitting under public_html are three sites. Mine's working here - the other two are waiting for the guy in the US to transfer his new stuff into, so let's not worry about them.

However there is another directory called www at the same level as public_html and this is where the sites I added as "aliases" showed up.

However when I added site4 as a subdomain - I find it is now in both public_html and www.

I think I'd rather persevere with this Chris - I've got to get a handle on it. I'll delete the 'subdomain' and add it as an 'addon'

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Alright - it's now deleted

Alright - it's now deleted as a subdomain and added as an 'addon' and all files are transferred. Now how do I view it?

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You have to watch this. Its possible the pages may be accessible (and possibly broken) from "umbrelladomain.com/addondomain" or "umbrelladomain.com/subdomain".

Ooops! Yes I did get to it with this! I have also used T's trick of putting a comment in so I know when it's served)

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Okay....am now up to

Okay....am now up to this....

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Important Note

All of the above assume you are not moving your domain's DNS servers. If you need to move your DNS servers, I would do that separately from the website move. That is ensure the new DNS server has the exact same information as the old one and then switch the DNS servers. Once that has bedded in you can then do the website move.

Other important thing

If your domain name control panel gives you control over the TTL of your domain name records, you could consider reducing the TTL in the run up to the move. A typical TTL is 86400 (24 hours in seconds), if you could reduce it to 15 minutes (900), and do that more than 24 hours before the move, then you would ensure everyone would be using the new site within 15 minutes of the DNS change. Once the change is done, remember to put the TTL back to something more normal (e.g. 86400).

Copied it so I/we don't have to keep going back.

Off to check out the TTL.

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Okay - I now have the

Okay - I now have the website in two places: old server and LPages. Both are working.

I would have to change the TTL on the registrar, right? No go Sad Can't see a thing in there, no options to change it. Very minimalist.

So if I go and point the servers to LP now, the site shouldn't go down should it? Just that some users will get the old site and some the new for a day or two.

Is that right or is there something else I need to do?

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Where you change something

Where you change something like TTL will depend on what dns servers you are using I guess. My domain name registrar holds my registered names, I have some as 'parked' these ones I point to Shared Hosting accounts, by point I tell/instruct that the Authoritative name servers for this domain name reside elsewhere the only piece of information I enter is the dns server name i.e ns1.example.com the shared host will have entered the domain name in as a A record, I'll have no access to advanced settings such as TTL settings. Other names I keep with my registrar are set up a little differently in that I choose to use their name servers, I then provide an IP addresss that I would like their A record to point to, in this instance I have access to the advanced dns settings and can make adjustments.

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I don't have access to the

I don't have access to the TTL on my domains either.

As I mentioned earlier, for a static site its not important. You have two sites that are identical. It doesn't matter to the user if they get the IP for one or the other. And after a day or so everyone should get the new IP and therefore the new site.

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Quote:I tell/instruct that

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I tell/instruct that the Authoritative name servers for this domain name reside elsewhere the only piece of information I enter is the dns server name i.e ns1.example.com the shared host will have entered the domain name in as a A record, I'll have no access to advanced settings such as TTL settings.

This is what I've got - does that mean if I point the servers to LP when I get home, (leaving now) they will take another 3 days?

Or has this process I've gone through, with duplicate sites on old host and new host mean that the site will not be off line to anyone whether they get the new or old is the luck of the draw.

ETA: Brilliant!! That's exactly wht I wanted to confirm Smile

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Three days is always a

Three days is always a pessimistic view I don't ever recall something actually taking that long.

I think that you are probably ok with the way you have proceeded and should be safe with the duplicate sites, but cover yourself and ensure that people are aware that things can, in worst case scenario, take a while.

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Smooth as silk! It was there

Smooth as silk! It was there when I cleared my cache and checked this morning. Well done all!! *cheering and clapping*

My grateful thanks to all who contributed to this and the VBox thread and - let's face it - the whole of the last 2 months getting me up and running on the Mac and VirtualBox and now the hosting/domain switching. If I start naming, I'll miss someone...you know who you are and, just as importantly, so do I. However I don't think anyone would mind if I said...Chris, your instructions have been outstanding - truly - thank you sooo much Smile I've no doubt it will all help someone else somewhere along the line, if it hasn't already and Hugo...thank you for being as diligent as ever with me Smile

No doubt there's more to come, things aren't really as smooth as I would like in some areas, but I really do have to concentrate on some coding for a bit Tongue Did I hear a collective sigh of relief?

It just goes to prove once again the fabulous knowledge and generosity of this community.

I really do appreciate you all so much! {mwah}

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