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I recently was able to download the latest safari browser (IE) for a PC. I love it! However, the missing link is the safari browser for PC in a FF version. Is this possible? Is there some type of alternate extension for safari FF browser in a PC. I hate to have to buy a mac just for viewing browser only. Any suggestions? thx

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I don't understand the

I don't understand the question. What do you mean Safari in a Firefox version? There's Safari for Windows or Safari for Mac.

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And, in Linux, Konqueror

And, in Linux, Konqueror uses the KHTML engine, which is Webkit's daddy. The Epiphany browser gives you the choice of the Gecko (Mozilla) or Webkit (Safari) rendering engine. The Webkit version is a bit beta-ish; not as solid as Konq's KHTML, but the Gnome people are supposedly going to make it their standard.

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Oh I think I know what the

Oh I think I know what the OP means-- when you get Safari for Windows, it tries really hard but isn't exactly like Safari on a Mac, and there's a Mac version of FF that actually, most of the Mac users I know (all 4 of them) use instead of Safari. So, FF using Mac fonts and all that.

But, I wouldn't worry about it dude. Like you, I'm sure as hell not going to buy a Mac just for browser testing. Screw that. Safari-for-Windows seems good enough, and FF on Windows is, for the most part (fonts aside) renders the same on PC as Mac as Linux/Unix.

Konqueror gets under my skin. I don't like it. Now there may be something awful in my code, but why do textareas go all goofy strange weird in Konq while every other browser (including IE who also can't seem to count "cols" the same way as Saffy and FF with textarea) at least can keep the textarea inside the parent form?

Do they still tag-team, or have they split and gone their separate ways? (KHTML and Webkit)

Oh there's a second possibility-- I've been seeing on websites FF3 done up to look like Safari. I don't understand what that all is... I keep seeing that stop-light thingie and think, that's Safari, but instead it's FF. Mozilla dev guys seem to really like using it, but it just confuses poor morons like me.

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Stomme poes wrote:'ve been

Stomme poes wrote:

've been seeing on websites FF3 done up to look like Safari. I don't understand what that all is.

That's just a theme then isn't it?

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I'm not sure... maybe

I'm not sure... maybe they're using Macs and that's how FF looks on a Mac? I have no idea, but I know people do this "skins" thing... whatever. I only see screenshots, so I'm not sure which it is, and I don't have a Mac to check what FF3's default looks like.

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ok, sorry if I didn't state the question properly...

Honestly, I'm confused about the whole Safari area. I downloaded a safari browser for my windows. Someone was telling me they were viewing a design on a mac (which is safari, right?) in FF browser and there were some rendering issues. I have no idea because it renders fine on all my PC browsers, including the Safari one.

So can someone please straighten me out. What do you do in this situation? Do you think this person just had some fluke setting? Or is a Mac FF browser different from a Safari windows browser? Please help. :blushing:

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Mac is hardware and most

Mac is hardware and most likely implies the Apple OS, OSX. Just like windows it can run lots of different browsers, including Firefox. So if they are saying they are viewing the design on a Mac and there are rendering problems in Firefox, that is exactly what they are seeing.

Ask them for a screen shot, Apple-shift-4 and select the appropriate area should do it.

One key difference that can occur between OSs is the available fonts, although the current Macs should have all the standard XP fonts (Arial, Courier New, Georgia, Tahoma, Times New Roman, Trebuchet MS and Verdana), but not the newer Vista fonts (e.g. Calibri). However, the fonts aren't necessarily drawn in an identical manner - but then that is true between browsers on the same OS.

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so in this case...

In this case would it even be helpful to get a mac? I mean how to you design/css for both mac and pc? I mean it's complicated enough getting all the pc browers to render the same. Please advise.

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I did (a refurbished mac

I did (a refurbished mac mini). Now I prefer it to the PC. In fact since about 3 months after I bought it, I have hardly turned the PC on. I run Windows (& when required Linux) browsers through VMs on the Mac. Other people use the various online screen capture services.

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?

How about when designing. I mean, to be honest I'm not going to invest money into all the software I would need to use a mac, but I would buy a used one just for checking browser compatibility. My question is though, how do you even know how to design for both pc and mac? Is there a kind of mac hack code or do I use a separate style sheet for ie and mac? How does this work?

Or is there a way to run macOS on a windows PC? Probably not, but it's worth asking...

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You can't run a Mac on

You can't run a Mac on Windows (well you can but it's a pain) but you can quite easily run Windows on a Mac.

As for the differences, for the most part, there shouldn't be any. I hardly ever need to make any adjustments for my layouts for Macs once they're right in Windows. Check out one of the screenshot services like http://www.browsercam.com/ http://browsershots.org/ or http://litmusapp.com/

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Thanks so much...

Thanks, this is very helpful. This other person who was running a mac must just have some weird font setting on his system?

Thanks again!

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Quite possibly.

Quite possibly.

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