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As mentioned sometime last month I have been putting together a hosting business.
I've had the server for a while and now have finally got the site up to promote it.
http://www.multiwebspace.com/

The site is a fairly simple fluid design which makes use of menus from the tamming lists article at alistapart

The color scheme is a little unusual and a slight change from grey for me Smile
I have noted how bad it looks in 256 colors. Apart from my parents does anyone surf with 256 colors these day's?

It would be nice to here from Mac users, especially if there is any problems.

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Hey there Smile
Found a typo on about.php>> quality, not quqlity Smile
On support.php, I would put your navigation bar as well.
On contact.php, I would actually write what the email address is. Some people don't like to use mailto.

That said, I like it. It's simple, clean. the visited link colour is a little hard to see against the background.

As for 256 colors... Yes, there are lots and lots of people still using that. They may not be your primary visitors, but they exist. They are the same people who still use a basic VGA monitor with a pre-pentium machine, because they can't afford anything else. In particular, this applies to a lot of people with disabilities who have to survive on less than $500/month. Of course, these might not be the type to purchase your hosting services Smile

But it pays to be more accessible rather than less I think Smile

Oh! I was looking at your site on Opera 7.1

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A quick thing - there's a horizontal scrollbar on IE6.

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Thanks Guy's,
Looks like I need a text editor with a built in spellchecker :roll:

The mailto is actually JavaScript which is meant to limit bots picking up and abusing my email address. I agree that displaying the email address make it easier for people. I could still use the JavaScript and display the email address with spaces around the @ symbol like I have in the title tag. I'm not sure how effective this is at limiting spam but it may make it harder for users. Anyone have any view on this.

I'll have a look into the IE6 horizontal scroll bar.

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My view on spam: it's the price of doing business. Get a good spam filtering system, build up your own filters.

Alternatively, use an email address on that site that is only used for that, you can filter it into its own mailbox, and you can easily scan from there. Running your own hosting you likely can create as many addresses as you want Wink

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I looked at your site multiwebspace.com on Mac IE 5.1.6 (OS 9.2.1). It appears pretty close to the PC version with following exceptions.

1) Support page: The content is positioned below the navigation as opposed to next to it.

2) Register page: the radio buttons are being overlapped by their descriptions.

Mac Netscape 6.2.2 (OS 9.2.1) also has severe problems with the register page. Mac Opera 6.0.2 seems to be working just fine. Free versions of IE for mac are being discontinued (or so they say). Soon only MSN subscribers will be able to use it for free. Most Mac enthusiasts will probably migrate to Safari. I'm stuck OS 9.2.1 so I can't check any newer OS X based browsers for you. I can email you screen shots for the browsers I checked, if you like. I hope that this helps some.

Best of luck!

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Thanks Migs,
The support system is an externally developed application that I have tried to customize to fit with my site. I should be able to rewrite the front support page and get a more consistent look.

The Radio buttons may be more of a challenge. :?

Thanks for your help.

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vavroom wrote:
My view on spam: it's the price of doing business. Get a good spam filtering system, build up your own filters.

Personally, I don't think anyone should have to put up with spam. If Tony can manage to avoid it (as much as possible, at least), then good for him. But... everyone's entitled to their own opinion!

It might not be a bad idea to make the feedback system a bit easier, though. Maybe adding a feedback form instead of the mailto link would make it a bit more user-friendly?

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Feedback

Thanks Daniel,
I like the idea of a feedback form and shall look at adding one shortly.
The sites only new and, like most sites that aren't dead in the water, will grow and evolve with more features in the wind such an FAQ section.
I suppose I need feedback, or questions before I can add a FAQ :roll:

BTW I do have spamassassin set up which and it is working well, I still want to make it a little harder for the spammers out there. I like most people these days, have multiple email addresses which I suppose means spammers have more addresses to spam me at. Wink

Thanks for the feedback.

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radio buttons

I have made some changes which should fix the radio button issues in Mac browsers.
Could someone please check it out for me.

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Hi Tony,
I looked over your site again using the same browsers as before. The Support page is aligned now, but the Register page has the same problems. I ran it through a Demo of BrowserCam. This service seems pretty useful and the results are pretty much on the money ( from the few samples that I've compared against my local PC ).

http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=13627

Note: The Netscape 7 option is pretty close to what I get for Netscape 6 on the Mac. The Explorer 5.2 is similar to my Explorer 5.1.6.

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A few comments on the design - i think the margins for the entire content is a bit too big, I think you would benefit from having less negative space.

Also the blue is a bit too high a constrast against the brown I think - constrast is definitely good, but maybe tweak it a tad so it's less bright.

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Thanks Migs and Bruce,
Looking at Netscape 7 on Mac, and some of the other browsers it seems they don't like labels Crying.
I used labels for accessibility reasons and now some browsers can't access anything. So I'll have to wrap each label in a span or div.

The margin is a compromise with my graphic designer, she wanted much more space originally.
I will make a change to the link color, the space will have to stay.

Thanks again.

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Tony,
I placed an order at BrowserCam with the URL you listed, it should be finished shortly. You can see the results here.

I didn't order screenshots from every browser or every resolution- the full list of browsers follows:
Konqueror 3.0.5 (no Flash) - Linux
Mozilla 1.1 (no Flash) - Linux
Mozilla 1.3 (no Flash) - Linux
Netscape 4.8 (no Flash) - Linux
Netscape 7.0 (no Flash) - Linux
Explorer 5.2 - Macintosh
Mozilla 1.1 - Macintosh
Netscape 4.8 - Macintosh
Netscape 7.0 - Macintosh
Opera 6.0 - Macintosh
Safari 1.0 - Macintosh
AOL 7.0 - Win 2000
Explorer 5.0 - Win 2000
Explorer 5.5 - Win 2000
Explorer 6.0 (no Flash) - Win 2000
Mozilla 1.1 - Win 2000
Mozilla 1.1 (no Flash) - Win 2000
Mozilla 1.3 - Win 2000
Mozilla 1.3 (no Flash) - Win 2000
Netscape 4.78 - Win 2000
Netscape 6.2 - Win 2000
Netscape 6.2 (no Flash) - Win 2000
Netscape 7.0 - Win 2000
Opera 6.05 - Win 2000
Opera 6.05 (no Flash) - Win 2000
Explorer 4.0 (no Flash) - Win 98.

If you'd like screenshots from any other browsers (or if you're interested in 640x480) just let me know and I'll add them to the order. Also, if you make changes in the near future and would like me to re-order the previous URL I'd be glad to.

For anyone else interested in a BrowserCam order, I'll be posting an offer in Site Check soon.

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Thanks KnightWolfJK,
Browsercam is a very handy tool.
It shows a few gaps, spaces and strange placements in different browsers, none that I am too concerned with for the front page (it's still useable).

On the registration page I still have to fix the label issue which I should get round to in the next few days.

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New colors

I made some changes to the form which hopefully will fix the problems I was having with labels not displaying http://www.multiwebspace.com/register.php

I also made some major changes to the color scheme which luckily is so easy with CSS Cool
To get over the email problem I have added a form as suggested by Daniel.
http://www.multiwebspace.com/contact.php

I tried to sign up for a freebee at browsercam but have been informed they are having trouble with their email server.

KnightWolfJK please submit a new request to browsercam for http://www.multiwebspace.com/register.php with all mac browsers when you get a chance.

Thanks Tony

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Tony: Here is the browsercam for /register.php. The only major problem I see is NetScape 4.8- but then, Netscape 4.8 doesn't like anything... at all.

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Thanks KnightWolfJK,
Netscape 7 on Mac is still not showing the labels on the radio buttons.
Explorer 5.2 the labels are ontop of the radio buttons.

The rest seem to be acceptable to me.