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Hiya people, I aint posting on this forum for a long time. I am just wondering what your first impressions are of my site. I have been progressing in my webpage develeopment as many of you may know...

well here it is http://logicrises.co.uk

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Hi Rees,
Nice clean design, I like it.
It's good to see how far far you have come in such a short time.

The only thing I could suggest as an improvement is the use of label tags for the login form.

<table class="before_login">
		<tr>

			<td><label for="username">Username: </label></td>
			<td><input type="text" size="16" id="username" name="username" /></td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<td><label for="password">Password: </label></td>
			<td><input type="password" size="16" name="password" id="password" value="" /></td>
		</tr>
		<tr>

			<td colspan="2"><input type="submit" name="do_login" value="Login" /></td>
		</tr>
	</table>

Hope that helps

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Rees, I echo Tony nice clean design doesn't detract from the content which always pleases me; however I would go through and correct some of the grammer and spelling mistakes (not that I'm one to talk)
I realise that you are a student and as such not needing to earn a substantial living but your pricing for page design undermines the skills that you have aquired and for that matter others that are trying to earn a living; £20 pounds for three pages is too low, it's a days work and skilled; it ought to be more, labourers can earn that in virtualy an hour! sorry to sound like I'm scolding but there is nothing worse than underselling skills and services . when you get your web design position you will be expecting to earn a good deal more for your work . Spare a thought for freelance designer/developers and value your skills and commitment as your offering truthful and reasonable services which I commend you for, just charge a truthful and reasonable ammount for those services.

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Thanks Tony, I have looked at some of my posts from earlier times of my Webpage Development. I can see for my self that I have improved Laughing out loud Laughing out loud

Thanks, the last thing I debug (in a sense) is Spelling and Grammer , but it is the most important.

Do you think I am experienced enough to charge those amounts though?

What are the labels used for?
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Small spelling mistake in Our Services ~
'Christian Web Desizn Provides......'

Assume you want to spell it as Dezign and not the correct way Design?

Maybe worth a spell check on all pages.

Nice clean site otherwise.

It's not what you do it's the way that you do it.
So do it with STYLE
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Now I have explained some of the things that go on at Logic Rises, I think I will introduce myself. My name is Rees and .I am a Christian and attends church as often as I can. I am studying an B-TEC National Diploma for IT at SCAT college in Shrewsbury.

Blimey, same here! (Not the Shrewsbury part mind you!)

I'd have a think about the overall design and layout of the site. If you want to attract buyers, then you need a professional site. It's good, I love the logo - it's fantastic.

I wouldn't advertise the fact that your site has errors - I would try and fix them before you go live.

I don't see the need to point out in big letters what each box id for - I think the visitors are going to know it's main content' in that big box.

Also, work on your grammar. If you got into college, you need at least 5 A* to C grades, and if I remember correctly, one has to be in English and one in Maths. I'm disappointed that people can get into college yet lack basic spelling and grammar skills.

Sigh.

Anyhoo, my point:

Quote:

* Hosting and Domains
* Forums
* Shout box's
* Login Accounts
* PhotoGraphes, Graphic Design
* CMS (Content Management System) - which anables to update your website urself.

Packages

* 3 Page Website - From £20
* 5 Page Website - From £30
* 10 Page Website - From £50
* Any More, Discuss further

Aditional Provision

* CMS - From £20
* Forum - Free of charge
* Member Accounts - £10
* Hosting - £20 per year or Free (many limitations)
* Domain Name - From £15 per two years or Free(limitations)

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* Hosting and Domains
* Forums
* Shout boxes
* Login Accounts
* Photographs, Graphic Design
* CMS (Content Management System) - which enables you to update your website yourself.

Packages

* 3 Page Website - From £20
* 5 Page Website - From £30
* 10 Page Website - From £50
* Any More, Discuss further

Aditional Provision

* CMS - From £20
* Forum - Free of charge
* Member Accounts - £10
* Hosting - £20 per year or Free (many limitations)
* Domain Name - From £15 per two years or Free (limitations)

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Thanks, the last thing I debug (in a sense) is Spelling and Grammer , but it is the most important.

If your site is live then you should concider it the most important thing
as it harms your credibility.

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Do you think I am experienced enough to charge those amounts though?

that is a question you have to ask yourself, if your going to promote your services then you should concider yourself experienced; my point would be that in any business it is always a bad move to offer services too cheaply it just gives the impression that one is not competent and there are an awful lot of people around the web offering design/development for silly prices I could go on but this would turn into a rant on the nature of so called freelance services that adorn the net.
Have belief in yourself, you clearly have reached a level of competence and will go on improving and I'm guessing will serve your clients with honesty and dedication, so it's reasonable to be justly compensated for your efforts.

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I agree with all the previous posts.. additionally I wouldn't advertise that I am a student who wants to go into a future job as a Web Developer....
You have a site out there that is promoting web design so don't tell everyone that you want a future job as a web developer... you're already out there as a web developer...leave that comment to your personal site or blog..

I think it is WONDERFUL that you are a Christian and attending college but IMHO that has nothing to do with your design companies presence on the web... if you want to state that... do it in the services portion... or better yet in an about us page...

Do something with your Contact Me link... either encode the url or use form mail or some other method...(spam prevention etc)

I 'm not sure what the login or registration does for me? Is this for current clients or what? If for current clients it doesn't need to be on the initial page of the site... make it a menu item... if not for current clients then be a bit more specific as to why I should register

I like the logo and overall design of the site...

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Thanks for all your comments, I am glad that you have been truthful and being realistic about what needs to be done on my site. I am going to work through all of those points.

can I ask you all to check my site once I have made some adjustments Wink

Thanks So Much!!
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With the MAIN CONTENT bar, is it just a black picture with a little image on the left?

I ask this because us with a widescreen monitor (I love my new laptop Laughing out loud ) see the picture, and it only goes so far over in the main content box.

I am going to be attending The Ohio State University this fall as an incoming freshman, majoring in Computer Science and Engineering.

Go Bucks!

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oh I see, haha! wot resolution have you got your screen at?

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Sigh.

You have the title of the html set at Logic Rises - Christian Web Dezign, yet you welcome viewers to Logic Rises, then give information about Christian Web Design (sic).

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Welcome to Logic Rises
Picture of me

Christian Web Design is a company based in Shrewsbury, We offer our programming skills and experience for cheap and truthful Web. I want to get one thing absolutly clear, we do not have any hidden charges for website upgrades and maintenance.


If I'm honest, this makes NO sense. Try this instead:

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Welcome to Logic Rises

Logic Rises is a web design company based in Shrewsbury. We offer our programming skills and internet experience at affordable prices. We do not have any hidden extra charges for website upgrades and maintenance.


And get rid of the photo of you - replace it with something like a pic of a computer!

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oh I see, haha! wot resolution have you got your screen at?


I thought I made myself clear in my first post - check your d*mn spelling and punctuation before hitting the big Submit button! Click SpellCheck - it's ****ing right there!

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ok I will do.

Sorry about all my spelling mistakes, I will make sure that all mistakes are to be corrected and looked through before I press the submit process button.

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Sorry, I guess I came on too harshly. It's not a dig at you personally, just at people who don't take time to check their work before publishing.

Site's good, though.

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thanks, no problem mate...
thanks for al the tips

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hey people I have changed some of Logic Rises. What do you think now?

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Since we are all doing proof reading pineapplehead - the last time I looked additional had two ds in it. Smile

No class, little style and a lotta division.