Mon, 2003-07-14 18:40
My website has been converted to xhtml strict but it is not valid according to the xhtml validator. Has it something to do with the css declarations?
http://www.sionvalais.com/zermatt.php
cheers,
Mark
Mon, 2003-07-14 20:37
#1
xhtml strict
I suggest just reading through the comments. For example:
Quote:
Line 2, column 5: document type does not allow element "head" here; assuming missing "html" start-tag
means that you've opened a <head> tag without opening the <html> first.
It shouldn't be the CSS, I don't think the HTML validator checks that.
Mon, 2003-07-14 20:48
#2
not really working
it must be something else.
Tue, 2003-07-15 02:04
#3
xhtml strict
I don't think you can check php pages via the validator. So a work around is, open the php page in your browser, copy the source and paste it into an html file and test it.
Tue, 2003-07-15 02:32
#4
xhtml strict
sionvalais, I don't think you understand what XHTML is. I have been trying to validate your page, but it has got hundreds of errors. The very basic syntax of XHTML is not followed. I would suggest that you validate your page for XHTML transitional first before jumping into Strict mode. Also have a look at this post I made earlier [url=http://www.csscreator.com/css-node/17188
BTW I am still working on your page and when I finish it you need to compare it to your page for you to understand the differences. Cheers
Tue, 2003-07-15 03:03
#5
xhtml strict
There you go..... XHTML 1.0 Strict compliant !!
and this is your page which I modified to make it XHTML strict. Some of the links will not open in new page as XHTML strict does not support target="_blank". If you need a work around I can give you one(javascript). Till then cheers.
PS. Make sure you compare your code with mine and learn what tags have been deprecated and also how they have been implemented for XHTML.
Tue, 2003-07-15 05:54
#6
Thanx!
I really appreciate all the work you have done!
Now I see what is wrong... (delete base target,
, nosave, the open php line, leftover table statements etc.). I will effectuate the change on all pages. Was there anything wrong with the meta tags?
cheers,
Mark 
Tue, 2003-07-15 06:07
#7
Re: Thanx!
sionvalais wrote:
I really appreciate all the work you have done!
Now I see what is wrong... (delete base target,
, nosave, the open php line, leftover table statements etc.). I will effectuate the change on all pages. Was there anything wrong with the meta tags?
cheers,
Mark
Not a problem mate.
I can't recall changing the meta tags but I think you didn't close off your link tag:
<link href="http://www.sionvalais.com/css/cams.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
Tue, 2003-07-15 06:30
#8
One last thing
I suspect that this line: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
got misread in a *.php ços it's begin and end tag is fairly simular to the one's in php. Is it possible to leave this line out?
sincerely,
Mark
Tue, 2003-07-15 06:37
#9
xhtml strict
This is what you need for php:
<?php echo "<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"iso-8859-1\"?".">"; ?> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
Tue, 2003-07-15 07:38
#10
xhtml strict
The W3 validator will take a PHP file by URI - since it will 'fetch' the page in the normal HTTP manner, it will be 'parsed' and the XHTML output will be returned.
Tue, 2003-07-15 07:59
#11
xhtml strict
dJomp wrote:
The W3 validator will take a PHP file by URI - since it will 'fetch' the page in the normal HTTP manner, it will be 'parsed' and the XHTML output will be returned.
You are right !!. Sorry for the wrong Information :roll:
Tue, 2003-07-15 09:20
#12
xhtml strict
You should also note that the xml prolog: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
...makes IE use the broken box model. Removing it should make IE render the page in standards mode, while the xml prolog is not needed for conformance to the xhtml spec.
Tue, 2003-07-15 15:32
#13
delete it?
so can I leave it out of the script?
Wed, 2003-07-16 03:23
#14
xhtml strict
@insin: I've read in a few places that the prolog isn't necessary, but in my personal experience it was necessary to include it to be able to properly view my CSS in IE6. Now I'm running into issues because I'm using the box-model hack and the xml prolog ([url=http://www.csscreator.com/css-node/293 here[/url]). Any suggestions?
Wed, 2003-07-16 10:32
#15
xhtml strict
KnightWolfJK wrote:
@insin: I've read in a few places that the prolog isn't necessary, but in my personal experience it was necessary to include it to be able to properly view my CSS in IE6. Now I'm running into issues because I'm using the box-model hack and the xml prolog ([url=http://www.csscreator.com/css-node/293 here[/url]). Any suggestions?
The prolog is uneccesary and you can safely get rid of it (in fact it will fix any problems with Internet Explorer caused by quirky rendering by making IE6 render in standards compliant mode) - what do you mean when you say you can't view your CSS "properly" without it?
See Tantek's Mox Model Hack page for more info on this. There is a note about the xml prolog in the addendum to this article.
Wed, 2003-07-16 11:04
#16
xhtml strict
When I remove <?php echo "<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"iso-8859-1\"?".">"; ?> from my page my CSS isn't applied correctly. See attachments for visual examples.
Wed, 2003-07-16 11:15
#17
xhtml strict
KnightWolfJK wrote:
When I remove <?php echo "<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"iso-8859-1\"?".">"; ?> from my page my CSS isn't applied correctly. See attachments for visual examples.I checked your site (with the prolog) in Firebird and it rendered the same way as the "wrong" screenshot you posted. When I refreshed the page, it then rendered the same way as the "right" screenshot you posted. Could you put up a second page (index2.php or something) without the prolog and I'll have a closer look after lunchtime for you?
The xml prolog shouldn't have anything to do with it (apart from forcing standards mode) - most intriguing... 
Wed, 2003-07-16 11:42
#18
with or without
without prolog
http://www.sionvalais.com/achensee.php
with prolog:
http://www.sionvalais.com/anzere.php
do you see a difference?
Wed, 2003-07-16 11:45
#19
German and French
It is not possible to write german or french special characters in my website. Xhtml is preventing that. Do I need an other charset?
Wed, 2003-07-16 12:13
#20
xhtml strict
@insin: I'll post my reply in [url=http://www.csscreator.com/css-node/293 thread[/url] so as not to step on sionvalais' toes.