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Hi all,

I am into web designing for almost a year and started from div's and am dead afraid of using tables, and have always stayed away from it.

ANyways, i havnt officially let my company knw, but i will be resigning by the middle of January, so i thought i will get myself acquainted with all of these elements from you experts. A few of you will be knowing that i work in Joomla, and i started with it, so it being a CSS i am not very aware of all the HTML functions, and thought i should ask you guys.

One of the first question is about pagerank, i have been reading about it, but the articles appear very foggy to me, so i thought i would ask you.

Ok, another question is, how do i really get into the freelance business? I am already doing a couple of free sites, one for my dad and one for his friend, but i need am good at making templates, so, can anyone suggest me some sites that i can register myself at?

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PageRank is a badge. You get

PageRank is a badge.
You get to say, "Look at me, I'm PR3!!!"
PR is usually on average 3-5 months behind, so never expect any instant drop or gain.

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Exactly what i thought. I

Exactly what i thought. I have the library site for a month now, and every search result on India Pages for book discussions, this site comes first... but then not even a single page, has a page rank... Sad

And the site also, isnt picking up activity... Sad

But then, why does each post on this site, get a page rank almost, in the next couple of days???

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Googlebot probably sees that

Googlebot probably sees that the is ALWAYS fresh content here, so it comes back quite frequently.

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Google PageRank has to be

Google PageRank has to be earned, and it generally goes hand-in-hand with better rankings BUT it is not the be-all and end-all of SEO issues. More has been written on the web about PageRank than most other subjects so rather than me spending forever trying to explain it, why not start Googling. This explains the technical theory although it's a few years old > http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank.html

This also looks good at first glance > http://www.websitepublisher.net/website_promotion/search_engine_optimization/

You might also want to read this > http://csscreator.com/node/26416

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Hi, I have been through the

Hi,

I have been through the third link twice, trying to resolve my what my plan should be.

As mentioned i have already started to on doing free websites, just to build my portfolio.

but then, i need to do some jobs, that can be easily found. not much development but just sites that can be easily done, and can get me some good experience and reviews.

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i use craigslist.com and

i use craigslist.com and authenticjobs.com
but there is also guru.com and many others.

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I can't help you more than

I can't help you more than that because I started a design consultancy from scratch many years ago, which then slowly turned into a web app development business. I've never been a freelancer. Perhaps you need to produce a mailer that promotes your particular skills and sent it to all the agencies near to you.

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Well, as i said before, i

Well,

as i said before, i got into web designing just because i wanted to enhance my photography skills, and to learn about what is really required by companies. but css just got me involved a lot, and till i start my own photography firm, i need a base income (photography equipment is quite costly...) . And photography is always supported by websites, as they go hand in hand.

It would be great if you could give me some tips, of how you went about to start a business that was a bit offtrack. I am 19 now, so i have like years to think of retirement! Smile

any suggestions welcome...

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mihirc wrote:It would be

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It would be great if you could give me some tips, of how you went about to start a business

I started my business in 1987 when people kept telling me that I ought to. I went through the necessary tax and VAT paperwork exercises and opened a business bank account. I read books - lots of books. I spoke to people running their own businesses - lots of people. I made sure that I had enough money put aside from my previously very well paid job of avionics technician, and I bit the bullet, as we say. I hired my first member of staff.

After building up a portfolio of freebie and low-paid jobs, I made up a mail-shot and sent it to 50 PR agencies in South London. I rung them all and managed to get meetings with five of them. Three of them gave us some work but one of them introduced me directly to one of their most prestigious clients. That client needed an urgent job doing that their regular top-line agency (one of the biggest in London) could not do in time. It was one of the most crazy deadlines I have ever had but we pulled out all the stops, worked through the night, persuaded a printer to run the job the next day and delivered the brochures quite literally hot off the press in the nick of time.

We soon became that client's regular design agency and with that client under our belt we had no trouble attracting other high-level clients. Many came to us by word-of-mouth (always the best way). Obviously one has to have a naturally professional manner and be at home in a board-room situation, which thankfully I am (and my staff too). Before we knew it we were working for government agencies and then we could pick and choose our clients.

...but the world has changed in twenty years.

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Here recently I ran into a

Here recently I ran into a guy who does sales.
I offered him product (webdesign) for him to sale.

I told him to go out and talk to businesses and do online research on businesses and find who needs a website.
He shows me the site and I make him a price sheet.

I gave him permission to sale my services for as much as he wants.
His cut is completely not my problem. If I tell him it'll be a $3,000 site and he sales it for $8,000 - he made $5,000.

But the other way can happen and he could only sale it for $3,500.

Either way, he can make a lot of money off of my skills and he is excited to start this venture.
It's possible if the situation works out that we might rework out plan so we both can make as much money as possible so neither one of us get short changed.

Since we have so many Starbucks and franchise coffee houses here, it's really easy to meet with clients, and to make it even easier we agree to meet in THEIR office to make it more convenient for them. Truth be told, we don't have an office, so it works out the best and they think we are trying to make their life easier.

So far it seems like it is working out okay and have made a couple of clients.

It also helps that I work for a nationally recognized domain registrar and web design firm so that gives my name a bit of credibility.

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Hey Guys, thanks for the

Hey Guys,

thanks for the replies. I have been thinking about this a couple of months ,and still have a couple to go before i finally resign, so till then i will be working for the company. ofcourse it will take me sometime to really get used to the idea of working freelance, but i guess you got to do something about it someday.

thanks for your replies... i will need your guys inputs in the time to come. Smile

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BTW - I am only 23. So just

BTW - I am only 23.
So just keep learning everything you can and whore your self out.

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Deuce wrote:If I tell him

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If I tell him it'll be a $3,000 site and he sales it for $8,000 - he made $5,000.

Who handles estimate blowouts caused by the client changing their mind, scope creep etc?

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mihirc wrote:still have a

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still have a couple to go before i finally resign, so till then i will be working for the company. ofcourse it will take me sometime to really get used to the idea of working freelance, but i guess you got to do something about it someday.

If you can manage it, I'd stay at your full time job and work freelancing in around that for as long as you can. That way you can build up experience in not only web development but in running your own business while still earning an income.

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Oh, I dont plan on going

Oh, I dont plan on going full time freelance.
I enjoy my job.

I know how to run a business, but I am wanting some freelance work to have "play" money and I don't want to go find it. So having someone else do the foot work for me is fine.

As far as estimate blowouts, that's his problem. He's the front man. If they change their mind or want more, then it costs more.
I just do what I say I'm going to do.

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Hello, sorry for the late

Hello,
sorry for the late reply. The trip gave me a couple of days, of what exactly to do, and hence i have decided to quit the company for a few months. The inside news is they might make me a project leader/supervisor and increase my salary a bit.

Though i have already started working on some free websites to build up my portfolio. waiting for the client to give me the data, the template is already ready.

Anyways, how did u guys start of, contacting clients? i mean sometime you started with nothing right? right now am in the same position, i have built/ developed everything for the company and mostly in Joomla, so havent much experience in the outside world.

@ Deuce - u just 23? wow, nice to know that...

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mihirc wrote: @ Deuce - u

mihirc wrote:

@ Deuce - u just 23? wow, nice to know that...

Yup, I am sure TPH said he was just 20-something as well.

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Only just been 21

Only just been 21 Wink

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