D#9 - Tackling the text

Ooeerk! Well you know what you said...

Why? What will it do for it?

Yeah DL (list) is possibly a bad naming it's still how I'd do it :shrug: you have a term which you want to supply a definition to.

Not sure what is wrong with the line spacing? or is it a problem in that browser I never like to open unless asked?

Emails? what were the notifications in reference to actual posts or is the forum acting up :? and fumble fingers well in reference to my typing I'd agree but not otherwise

Ooeerk! indeed

Second page, yikes; your last post seems to be replicated, I'm confused which is never difficult

A dl list will just make it look pretty :? and create more work

But.but.but - it's a whole paragraph! Which bits the definition? All of it? What will it look like?

Noooo...Ooooh! I just went and looked again when I re-read your bit...it's the way that PSPad renders it. The second line is all squashed up under the first - somehow it loses the line-spacing. But I just looked in the Fox and it's fine, I've had it open all the time - how come I didn't notice? Sheesh!

I thought you must have edited it a couple of times (hence the fumble fingers ) since I got the same email 3 times a minute apart. Ooh! :ohdear: I've just thought - I edit a lot - I'd better stop doing it if it sends another post

I think that's too much information

Nah, I edited it 'cos I forgot to close the quote and make it pretty for you.

For both of us Sunshine! Don't forget that

Ah see never believe the rendering unless looking at the page in a real browser, room 101

As for the dl and paragraphs, what's the problem? can you not have a long-winded explanation that spanned a few paragraphs or is a definition meant to be more succinct?

Maybe you better hang on till Gary pops in as his head is more semantically balanced than mine and he does good with the gramimatical stuff.

Now to test this editing of posts and email notification responses to them.

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I have put it in this page - first line third para - but look what it's done to the line spacing This won't do!
<sup> is pretty much like any other visible element, it can be styled, eg.

sup {
  font-size: .6em;
  }

I didn't see any deleterious effect on line-spacing, in this case, though if it were in, say line 3, it likely would be noticeable. Do keep in mind that different browsers will render super and sub-scripts differently. Firefox's default stylesheet does this for sub and sup:

sub {
  vertical-align: sub;
  font-size: smaller;
  line-height: normal;
  }

sup {
  vertical-align: super;
  font-size: smaller;
  line-height: normal;
  }

This is not Word or some desktop publishing application. Pixel perfection is not possible, nor is it a desirable goal.

cheers,

gary

It's alright Gary I think Vicki was just having one of those blond moments

Yes it's keeping track of 2 browsers and the editor when my head is elsewhere that's the problem

As for the DLs - I'll have to look and see what happens, to me it's really just text.

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Yup! Original plus 3 - I have noticed this before occasionally, you mean you haven't?

Goodoh! I didn't realise this - wondered how I was going to make it perrpul

Wot he said below :blushing:

So did anybody read this? Does it hang together? I can't tell anymore I've edited and moved bits around so much. Though no doubt Lis will shred it, I had to give her something to get her started - usual problem.

Also FF won't let me dnload Fangs - keeps saying it blocked the request - where do I change that please?

Thanks for cleaning up that spam mess Hugo Gotta run now, check you later.

For dnload try going to options>security>top box select the 'advanced' button to the right and add addons.mozilla.org or whatever the url is; can't remember if that sorts things, do remember this from ages ago but can't recall if this is the way to do things but I have a number of urls listed as exceptions to blocked installs.

As for the emails notification, no never realized this was the behavior but then I've never allowed post notification/tracking I'd be inundated by the things, I only set PM notifications to on.

I'll have to be careful with the fifteen edits to my posts that I do when having one of my off days!

Um, where's the footnote? If you're going have the footnotes on their own page, you need to make the superscript a link to the page/fragment.


Some text needing clarification/citation14.


[14] clarifying stuff

cheers,

gary

He changed it!

You've all got me paranoid about being such a dunce now :blushing:
But it was the "put &lt to escape" - escape somehow meant the end to me, yet I knew the &lt had to go at the beginning. Yes I could have just tried it - but I just would have caused more ribald laughter if I got it wrong, which I was bound to :rolleyes:

Thank you Tyssen! Hopefully more newbies will now stop having these funny gaps in their text It's like your front teeth are missing and everyone's staring at you.

It's there now, I didn't have Lis' reference so I had to change it to the dictionary I've got.

The superscript references within articles will be at the bottom of the page where there is also a "back to text" link to position them back to the text from whence they came. Red text links (eventually purple) will either take the user off site or to the links page for further information.

But errm...it doesn't quite work as you can see

http://www.nasmsite.com/principles.php

How do I get my paragraph proper size back please so I can show you the other little problem?

I had actually noticed it before as I said, but because I don't get involved in many threads (not much to offer really! ) I don't get inundated often but I can understand you would.

Sorright, you don't have them often and it isn't as though they're unmanageable - I just notice an occasional duplicate.

Thanks also for the FF tip, yes, I've got the other add-ons listed there so will add the sourceforge site.

I don't think I can agree that the Principles page requires a DL. To my mind it's a bit of text. In fact, "What is a principle" was the first sentence of the next para but I thought it was better by itself, I may yet put it back.

I've just loaded Gary's page (thought 8 readers were cool huh? ) into my editor and I'm not sure about all those para spaces. I was trying to group all the info for one date together to try and stop the page from spreading out so much.

However! I think we've all missed the boat on this one. I had a few minutes lunchtime to Google DLs 'cos I wanted to see what options I had and I found THIS!

http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/definition/

Scroll down to the bottom bit and go to Styling a definition list to look a calendar of events (sic)

I wouldn't want 2 columns, I don't think I've room, but the date is another dd and it will work if I can put classes on dds to get the text color change. Can I? What do you think?

You might try closing the <sup> tag, huh, maybe?
<p class="paranotop">One dictionary<sup><a href="#1">[1]</a><sup><a nam… :rolleyes: Too, a name or id may not start with a numeral, letters only. Make it #note1, eg..

The validator is your friend. Note that the blockquote element may only have block children.

cheers,

gary

You can simply use contextual styles:

.month p {
  margin: .5em 0 0;
  }

cheers,

gary

Sooo...other things intervened and I haven't got back to the newsletter as yet. However I have tidied up the Principles page, loaded the Paradox article and got tangled up with footnotes until I found a most "scholarly" article here with no less that five different ways of doing them!

I chose #2 for the Principles page - what do you think? And does IE squish the 2nd line in the 2nd para or not? It seems to be variable my end

I forgot to ask...is there a way of lining up a 2-line footnote (text beginning under text)? Display:block; won't work because it's not a list.

You could put a left margin on the note, then text-indent by the same negative amount.

.note {
  margin-left: 1.5em;
  text-indent: -1.5em;
  }

cheers,

gary

Thanks Gary! Works for me at 3.5em

Now, is it self evident in the Footnotes that if you click the coloured box it will take you back to the text or is there a way of putting alt="Back to text" on it please?

'lo Boys & Girls...miss me? Death & The Committee interruptions lately (sounds like Schubert) so have not got around to loading Fangs or rewriting the Facets page - but other things have changed.

Including Gary! I see he's turned around on his mountain to join the rest of us

Now to my current niggles...
the .aimslist dots on the home page won't sit in the middle of the line - I've tried the vertical-align: bit - doesn't make any difference.

and...

Now, is it self evident in the Footnotes that if you click the coloured box it will take you back to the text or is there a way of putting alt="Back to text" on it please?

Ummm...actually...another case of working locally and not on the server. I've left it so you can see.

I've got a third query, but would you help with these first please?

Try something like this, to make things more intuitive:


▲2  "Principles of Spiritualism" by Harold Vigurs. Two Worlds Publishing Co Ltd (December, 1984). ISBN: 094782300X

Why isn't this a list? Note that the alt attribute does not apply to the a element. Use the title attribute instead to get a tooltip.

Start a new thread for the new problems. This thread is now officially bloated.

As to flopping the image, I thought I should keep a closer eye on things.

cheers,

gary

Hi Gary

Thank you for this, I couldn't find the ISO code for your little triangle but no matter, the title bit was what I really needed to know and I think having a tool tip on the little block will do.

Another Good Idea no doubt. Is it a self-portrait by any chance?

& #9650; ▲

The image was stolen from the comic strip "B.C." by Johnny Hart, who died a few months ago. A shame, because the strip is very funny.

cheers,

gary

Sorry Gary, I forgot to say thank you for this. I will tuck it away but having tried a couple of other &uArr type things, I think it gets a bit crowded in the box, so I'm happy now that I have the tool tip.

Not familiar with the B.C. strip sorry, but I have a friend who had a cat named B.C. = Bunny Cat :shrug: Never did find out why LOL!

The footnotes work fine in FF2 but could someone check in IE6/7 please? I've tried setting the line height - it doesn't seem to make a difference - they're squished. But it could be my IE since I cannot see the menu drop downs, but I know they DO work in IE.

http://www.nasmsite.com/paradox.php

Thanks!

EDIT: Never mind - I again read the article I referred to above and she says: