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Criticism on the site is welcome and will be considered, but basically I keep getting random notes from people saying that the flash video on the right doesn't work.

I have knocked the version down to 7 so anyone who has upgraded in the last year should be able to view it.

http://www.hackmannstl.com/index.php

If you have flash plugin 7 or newer installed and you don't get a video can you please reply?

Note - I didn't do the design and I do know that the links come off of the wood backgrounds with only a couple text size increases, I mentioned it to everyone who mattered and they don't seem to care.

So any thing else to say about it I would like to hear.

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Please don't make videos

Please don't make videos with sound autoplay. That's all I have for you. Hope it helps.

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it makes sounds you is

:curse: it makes sounds :mad: you is firmly in the dog house you and your moving picture box

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I'm right there with you,

I'm right there with you, but they wanted their 15 second commercial to autoplay... I try to tell my clients everything I can before they decide... unfortunately, in the end, they are paying my bills.

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Starve, after a while the

Starve, after a while the pain goes away and you do get to gain the moral high ground Smile just not for long Sad

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on a brighter note, i'm not

on a brighter note, i'm not retarded and it does work, people just don't know how to maintain their updates.

You are welcome to delete the link so that no one else will have to put up with the wrath of "moving picture box" with all the "sound"

Thanks for being my guinea pigs Wink

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lab rats just a shame I was

lab rats

just a shame I was on a secondary box with speakers built into the monitor, couldn't remember where the volume control was so had to kick the s*** out of the monitor to shut it up

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Deuce wrote:... I try to

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... I try to tell my clients everything I can before they decide... unfortunately, in the end, they are paying my bills.

Yes, my last client insisted on a splash page. I tried to refuse but they were having none of it. :curse:

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Deuce wrote:I'm right there

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I'm right there with you, but they wanted their 15 second commercial to autoplay.

They do realise what people do when an ad comes on TV that they don't like, don't they? They change channels. Same thing on the Internet - you put an ad on your home page that people don't want to see and they'll go elsewhere straight away and not even see the rest of the site. Fair enough that they want to display their ad (which incidentally is cheesy as) but they really need to consider the implications of a) having it on their home page and b) making it auto play.

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All which I tried to explain

All which I tried to explain to them.

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Give them their splash page

Give them their splash page and move on.

You get paid, they get what they wanted, visitors will never visit their site and they'll realise you were right.

You win, they lose Wink

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The flash worked fine for me

The flash worked fine for me (FF2 on WinXP).

I keep my speakers turned off, as a rule, so no trouble this time. Wink

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Works fine by me. I have

Works fine by me.

I have some rather intrusive questions, but I hope you won't mind.

Do you bill by the hour or by the project?
How much are they paying you?
How many other clients do you have?
How much advertising do you do?
Why would you buy a new house with clients that are this finnicky?

I've got comments locked and loaded for each response! Wink

Seriously though, I understand your frustration. I'm going to start a new off-topic thread and maybe a new site to cover how to convince your clients that their vision of their website is wrong.

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thepineapplehead wrote:You

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You get paid, they get what they wanted, visitors will never visit their site and they'll realise you were right.

Or they think that because you built the site, it must be your fault that it's not working as intended. Even with access to site stats to show the index page as the highest exit page, it'd be hard to prove quantifiably that it's because of the ad.

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lokiloks wrote:Why would you

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Why would you buy a new house with clients that are this finnicky?

Because maybe he didn't know they were going to be this insistent on the ad at the start. The ad may not even have been part of the original spec. It's all very well to judge a client or project in hindsight, but you can't always know at the point at which you decide to get involved.

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lokiloks wrote:Do you bill

lokiloks wrote:
Do you bill by the hour or by the project?
How much are they paying you?
How many other clients do you have?
How much advertising do you do?
Why would you buy a new house with clients that are this finnicky?

Depends. If I am doing work for the advertising company i work for, they charge by the project. If I am doing freelance, I charge by the hour with an upfront proposal on hours it will take.

They are paying me whatever I propose to them and they accept. I always have a contract written and signed before I do anything.

With the advertising company we have currently about 25 clients, but we have only been in business for a year and a half.

I buy a new house because I get a salary and monthly bonuses and I don't want to live in a dumpster.

Hope this helps.

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Katie wrote:The flash worked

Katie wrote:
The flash worked fine for me (FF2 on WinXP).

I keep my speakers turned off, as a rule, so no trouble this time. Wink

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I have "If you can see this

I have "If you can see this text, you will need to upgrade your Flash plugin." on my screen. At the same time, the page does not degrade very well: navigation menu extends too far to the bottom.

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Do you have a recent flash

Do you have a recent flash plugin installed?
in what reference are you using "degrade". Are you speaking of seeing the site with no style sheet or looking at the site in an older browser?

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