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Hey, Im new to CSS. I know HTML, and Visual Basic very well.

And I have no idea how people make those great myspace layouts such as http://www.myspace.com/helio are there any tutorials on this?

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Each to his own, I guess.

Each to his own, I guess. Personally I think it sucks as a web page. Looks bad to me, is hard to read, and worst of all commits the to me unpardonable sin of forcing me to listen to "music". Yechh. That alone is enough to send me away never to return.

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not bad

i think it looks pretty darn good, esp considering how many bad myspaces are out there. i do believe this is using div tags to hide myspace content and overlay custom code over the top. i read somewhere a tutorial on how to do it somewhere.. ill post a link up here if i find it.

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so i had a look for you

so i had a look for you buddy and i couldn't find the page that i originally was talking about but i did some Googling and pulled up a few pages. remember if you got a question Google first, then ask cause there almost always is someone out there who has already asked that same question Smile. Check em out(in order of most relevant):

http://www.squidoo.com/myspace_div_overlay/#module1259789
http://hyalineskies.com/2006/06/myspace-dev-3-the-div-overlay-method/
http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=166246

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This is, in my opinion, the

This is, in my opinion, the best MySpace hack there is available. Clean and neat and the tutorial is funny and clever. Mike has done a pretty good job of making a purse (albeit not silk) from a sow's ear.

http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/04/hacking-myspace-layouts

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Phreestyle - I just read

Phreestyle -

I just read that article and it's brilliant! Thanks for pointing that one out!!

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No worries. Anyone who can

No worries.

Anyone who can combat the hideousness that is the basic MySpace layout needs to have his name shouted from the rooftops.

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I stole a quote I found in

I stole a quote I found in his comments for my signature! Thought it was one of those 'It's funny coz it's true' type things...

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I can think of many things

I can think of many things horrendous about myspace other than just the layouts!

But then I'm suspicious of any thing that seeks to gather the sheep Smile and of buzz words such as 'Social Networking'

The sig line is sad but probably true but then again one massive reason I would have for avoiding it would be that everyone else wasn't Smile

But it's what they all want *sigh* which I can understand , but there is a dangerous path therein.

But this desire to want to try and adjust the code I find slightly irksome and hope we don't start featuring it too much, we have only just got over the Friendster mini nightmare.

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Facebook

I completely missed Friendster, no idea what that was.

MySpace is, in my 'social network' anyhow losing out to a site called Facebook. You'd love that one! The idea is you sign on, add your friends then everything that happens in your respective lives goes up on it. Night out? Put your photos up in an album the next day! Off to Spain? Leave a comment in your status bar! But this is the beauty of it. Everything you do it then posts on the login screen of every single friend who has you registered.

My personal favorite is when someone ends a relationship and as their other half is linked to them via Facebook every single other friend of them both suddenly gets a link on their screen saying "Such and such, and so and so are no longer together". 200 of your friends could know your misses had given you the boot before you found out simply because she changed her marital status to single!

Seriously, half the time I needn't meet up with my friends because there's nothing left to discuss. I know it all courtesy of Facebook.
But I'm not completely dissing it, it is addictive. I like the fact when people put their own photos up, they have to tag who is in them, so anyone uploads a pic of me and I get informed automatically of its existance and get to see it!

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I don't question the

I don't question the cleverness of the app and from that point of view it interests me in how it's put together, but it's the aspect you hint at when you said "nothing left to discuss with friends"

The thing is like any new concept it is addictive but these are far from amusing diversions this is a glimpse of the future of human relations reduced to a digital world where everyone will begin to live vicariously through others and those others won't in reality be 'living' either.

The nature of the internet is rapidly changing many aspects of how life is led, yet it hasn't even begun to really get going with how it is fundamentally set to change the way we live.

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In my last post, I was actually going to joke about how we haven't even got to the point where artificial intelligence has the potential to be a concern, yet maybe it doesn't need to be for 'machines to take over', because we're voluntarily surrending ourselves to them anyhow! I completely agree and do anticipate these 'social' tools eventually being counter-productive but right now they're not. I get invited to every event a friend has because they post it up and no, I'm not talking about 'meetings in chat rooms' or 'web cam forums' etc! In conclusion that particularly site has dramatically increased my real-life socialising!

And I know what your all going to say, but yes... I am an 'internet-dater' (not right now obviously, I have a girlfriend, but it's certainly a hobby of mine when I'm not in a relationship)!

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Love dating described as a

Laughing out loud Love dating described as a 'hobby'

Artificial intelligence still seems to have many hurdles to overcome, and is the greatest challenge, not least because we still actually have scant idea of how the human mind does indeed work, which I guess makes it hard to replicate.

There is a lot of work with organic processors though which is one half of the equation where the processor can self teach and grow it's capacity and abilities even if it can't 'think' for itself.

Also Quantum processors are a worry, as the work on these seems to marching forward at a pace and when viable one can forget all about encryption as it's meaningless in a quantum world.

As with all technologies what is generally public knowledge is far behind what is actually under development, by the time new technologies are released publically they are often decades old in development terms what is currently being developed in secrecy is anyone's guess and probably far more advanced than we could imagine.

I can see that simply put these social networks just connect people who ordinarily might not meet and that one can find compatible like minded people with relative ease, and if that develops a healthy real world social life one can't unduly critisize.

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I'm glad you put up such a fascinating post because the forum today has been really slow!

When I think of Artificial Intelligence, I suppose I don't necessarily imagine replicating the human mind. But can we be that far off artificial cats for example? I've had Cats all my life so I feel I know precisely how the majority of them work and there's not exactly much complicated going on. I know some of them have 'personalities', but they're still controlled by instinct which surely is programmable. I've seen those robotic dog dudes but not overly impressed to be honest. Not yet at least.

Stop linking my 'Cats' with internet dating! And it is a hobby. Well, it is when you frequently go on dates with people you met from the net KNOWING they're likely to be somewhat odd and so you can tell the story afterwards. I've got some classic tales under my belt Wink

I think I'm going to hit Wikipedia with these 'Quantom Processors' you mention, they sound fascinating!

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good title, Well

Smile good title,

Well replicating the human mind is the goal, machines i.e processors are simply superb at computational exercises, but they can't think and by think one refers to the unique ability of the human mind to abstract thought, to make great leaps between concepts, to imagine, and these abilities appear to be what sets the human mind apart and allows us to create and explore, yes a machine might be able to be programmed with base instincts, as we have but these are lower functions residing in the reptilian cortex and are a fairly simple set of core directives that do things such as generate fear, procreate, to suffer hunger in order that we don't forget to eat etc.
A machine will not be able to tell you how it feels as it's an abstract concept.

The robotic dogs are amusing but more interesting is the Japanese walking humanoid figure thingy as that hitherto was a big stumbling block getting a robot into bipedal mode and to be able to walk up stairs, it simply defeated them for years as human balance is a subtle and difficult thing to replicate, based as it were on a constant falling motion

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I'll be talking Sim-age next!

I found the SIMS game rather interesting. I'm one of those odd people who can get addicted to things easily so had to tear myself away from it before I ended up going down the same path as my other half (who has spent more time on Sims then doing anything else whilst on holiday in Spain)! But what I found fun about it, was I found myself looking at things differently after that. Everything became levels and statistics in my mind to a certain degree.

My fun bar is low, think I'll watch some TV. Perhaps I shouldn't go out now, my hunger bar is really low and I need to sort it out whilst I have the chance. And of course, I've been playing SIMS too much, my social bar is low, I need to talk to friends before I become strange. It's particularly odd when your working out that it's ok if you go to sleep now (at 7pm) because if you get up at 3am the following morning you'll have stored up enough in your energy bar to make it through the 9 - 5 working day!

The thing I find funny about that is that whilst humans are somewhere trying to design computer programs to act like them, that particular computer program was slowly making me think like a mathematical application. Reverse Artifical Intelligence?

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I used to get completely

I used to get completely lost in Sim City tending in great detail to my infrastructure, ensuring water supplies were 100% building desalination plants, water towers all over the place , spending my last few bucks on a nuc power plant or two, having a thriving city with suburbs, plenty of transport, parks, lakes, stadiums, then I'd wander off for a while whilst the sim was running forget about it then run back in blind panic having realised I'd left it running in accelerated time and that 50 years had passed; my power plants were ageing running at 20% capacity, water towers had crumbled, those pesky aliens had visited and destroyed half my city and most of the citizens had moved on and I had no tax revenue to pay for reconstruction Sad

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That's tragic, yet secretly quite funny! Haha... I too used to get addicted to Sim City. I think I had the Sim City 2000 addition. It was amazing amounts of addictive fun but eventually ones ability to start from scratch diminishes and the game, much like your cities, grows old and dies.

It is funny how much games influence our lives though! I understand the rules of most sports from games, how bad is that! I was never a sporty kid so I know the scoring system for Tennis from Mario Tennis and the rules of Golf from his Golf game. I even phoned the Nintendo hotline when I was stuck on Mario Brothers 2 and they said "jump on an albatross flying left off the start of the screen". That's how I learnt my left and right - true story. In fact, come to think of it, I was bought 'Mario Brothers 2' as a present for correctly reciting my 7 times table!!!

I saw Die Hard 4.0 last night. Now that's a scary use of technology!!

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SC 2000 was the one first I

SC 2000 was the one first I think with Hi res graphics and zoom in capability so you could watch little cars driving around and follow the train up and down, and generally just stare at the screen for hours. Trouble with the game is that it had a definite finite point where you had achieved everything and simply couldn't do much else but tend to repairs, it needed an ability to let you then move to another map and link a new city or something.

I learnt to fly playing those flight sims that the airforce use as they are so acurate, well maybe not learnt to fly but I'm sure if I take my PPL I'll just be able to wave the instructor aside saying "no problem mate I've done all this before I know what I'm doing" while climbing steeply, stalling, scabbling for the door handle and proceding to also take my first freefall lesson , shouting back at the instructor " your planes naf mate how am I meant to throttle up if there is no left shift key, you want to get a better plane"

Stunts look pretty cool in DH 4, and Bruce claims to have done many himself, including diving out of a car doing 80mph Shock ouch

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He got kicked above the eye in one scene which apparently injured him, but that was just an afternoon off for him. It's his stunt double who got really badly injured, falling just a bit too far! I read somewhere that Bruce actually paid for family and friends to stay in a nearby hotel so they could see him in hospital, and he even went to visit a couple of times himself!

Haven't you played the 'Free-Fall Simulator 2000' then? Surely you'd prepare yourself with that? You should be able to set it up so that it automatically boots up if any given flight simulator crashes on you, haha. Oh, and don't forget 'Explain-Dead-Co-Pilot Simulator X4'! Tongue

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