And pray what would make tou
And pray what would make tou gouge your eyes out with CF? I'm a PHPer, now working extensively with CFMX as this is the language the project I'm involved with is using, I scoffed to start with and was haughty in my l33t knowledge of PHP but have had to concede that for speed and ease of use CF beats PHP hands down, the tag based nature easier to work with. Doing basic stuff a doddle where PHP attempts to make a mountain out of a molehill
I don't have any arguments
I don't have any arguments about PHP, it's looked down upon pretty badly in the Perl community-- it was a Perl programmer who was forced to work with CF because a bad client wanted it (client was bad for other reasons, not because they wanted ColdFusion). I had started talking to her about it because I was interested in XForms at the time, and CF supported it. Getting it working with the other programs involved in the project was difficult with the lack of classes and inheritance. The client also already had a bunch of custom coldfusion tags laying around. Maybe the client should have chosen someone who worked with Java or .NET stuff instead of a Perl programmer.
In any case, a colleague of mine got seriously sick and won't be back for months (or longer). As he's the sole Perl programmer in a company where sites are either written in PHP or Perl, I've been told by the boss to learn Perl. Woohoo! Oh noes! I'll remain the HTML and CSS overlord, but will have significantly less time for it. Then again, without someone implementing my pages, I have no reason to continue making them.
Well, here I go.
Maybe I'll be ready to take over in a year or two, lawlz : )
Thing with CF is that it
Thing with CF is that it truly is a RAD platform, I would give anything for CF custom tags in PHP, and the ease of passing parameters through 'cfmodule' I still have reservations where large sites are concerned , CF seems to have speed issues, and at the end of the day will stick to PHP, if for no other reason than I dislike the notion of the high costs of CF and the licensing for the server. As for learning Perl, wouldn't want to really, from minor dabbling didn't really feel that it was a web development language, it seemed to be too programmy than scripty
Perl: Making easy things easy and hard things possible
Perl: There's more than one way to do it (Tim Toady)
Perl: like learning to drive, it may take hours to learn, but once you have, actually driving is very very easy.
PHP: like training wheels without the bike.
The above is the propaganda I've digested so far. Being a believer in a One True Way (though possibly several Lesser Ways depending on the situation), I'm not sure my Inner Nazi is ready for something like Perl (rather than, say, Python). We'll see.
Actually find myself weary
Actually find myself weary of all the warring between the scripting tribes, at the end of the day I just need something to get the job done, I've sort of long time now had enough of programmers/scripters self aggrandisement/ pomposity
I'll doubtless stick with that which I have invested the most time in (PHP) at the end of the day scripting isn't really my strength - as much as I enjoy it.
"There's more than one way to do it (Tim Toady)" Always thought that was one of the problems, fed up with half a dozen ways of doing something, rather there was just the one, many ways simply leads to confusion and bad coding or that feeling when you stare at something for ages wondering what it means only to eventually find it's just different syntax for something you already know in three different methods *sigh*
^ Yeah that'll likely be my
^ Yeah that'll likely be my big problem with it. Python goes by the One True Way idea, which I think suits someone like me better. I don't mind knowing in CSS that I can center things with automargins or left: 50% margin-left: -50%ofthewidth, so long as I know the One True Way is the first (and being aware of the second for those rare instances where it's needed).
But we don't have anything written in Python here.
So before to bother you people with my CSS-issues, I thought I might say hello.
I am 29yo, I live in Portugal in the countryside (by reading through this thread I realized that in probably every farmhouse on the *** of the world sits a webdesigner clinging to a laptop like me. But its just the rotten weather, I tell you. As soon as it gets better I will be outside! I promise!)
My main interest is making mosaics, just another way of joining pixels together. I got into HTML and CSS by accident, when the guy I had hired to make my website just did not say anything anymore. Getting into this was by far the most interesting challenge I had for a long time and I just decided to keep doing it. I will probably never make it my main occupation as there is so much competition and who would ever give up being a mother, horse woman, artist, gardener, builder and teacher?
Hope I can get some good ideas and solutions here.
Nice to meet you Sarah, and welcome!
I'm more of a reader then a contributor these days as I usually worry I'm giving the wrong advice, but I do love HTML and CSS. They're like the perfect combination of art and logic so I can satisfy both my strength (programming) and my creative side at the same time.
Sounds like you do quite a lot, so I hope you enjoy CSS as much as we do (outside of testing and fixing for IE6 that is) and I hope we can be of help.
Catch you soon!
burlster, never feel bad
burlster, never feel bad about giving wrong advice, Lord knows I've given incorrect information as well, but how else will you learn?
Post how you would fix it and put a disclaimer that you might be wrong and one of the smart posters will come along and correct it for us
I've just signed up for the forum, having been searching for a good CSS forum. I'm a freelance developer, currently mainly building drupal based sites. I'm from the UK and have been developing sites since 1996! Took up CSS about 7 years ago or thereabouts so am mostly pretty comfy with it but I'm trying to learn some more skills, tips, techniques to improve my workflow so hopefully might get some good advice here
Well, I only just joined this forum today but I'm already finding the information on it useful. I taught myself HTML years ago and am now in the process of attempting to teach myself CSS. It's a whole new world and I'm floundering a little but gamely keeping at it.
My name is Georgia and I'm a 29 year old graduate student. I'm American but have been living in England for five years now. I'm doing a graduate degree jointly in Medieval English History and Archaeology. For me website creation is an escape from manuscripts and pot-shards - something as far from my daily concerns as I can get. *g* I do love it though as it's been my main hobby for the last ten years. However, I'm not a professional by any means, just a devoted armature.
Anyway, I'll be around and when I get through all the beginners posts I'm sure I'll be posting to ask all kinds of stupid questions. Please be gentle with me!
My name isnt really CupidsToejam, thats just what I use when on computers. I'm born and raised in japan. I read, write, and speak 8 different languages. I have PHD's in BioMolecular Engineering, Ichthyology, Astrophysics, Spectroscopy, and Thermodynamics. I enjoy designing websites cause it like color and picking my nose. I am worth 2.6 million dollars, 3.5 if you tally in my toenail collection.
nah, im just kidding. I'm just your average American.
Wow.. I've been posting on
Wow.. I've been posting on here daily since finding this forum a couple weeks ago, and haven't stopped in to the official "hello" thread yet!
Let's see.. I'll be 28 this May, live in Upstate New York, and currently work in a totally unrelated field to anything that I love, like, or even remotely enjoy. I have needed to complete my Bachelor's Degree in Compute Science for a couple years now, but haven't been able to round up enough money to stop working full time, and go back to school.
I have never taken any classes for web design, HTML, CSS, etc, and have basically taught myself everything that I know through Google, forums like this, and trial and error. I taught myself on notepad, and always do all of my coding by hand.
I currently work for a lumber and building material distributor. I was hired on as their IT/Web person, who would be doing "some of the billing" to start with.. but after having me re-design their website, and create several product catalogs for them, my manager decided that she wanted the IT gig, and now I get to do the billing full time (I hate it)! The actual billing takes me about 30 minutes a day.. so I spend the other 8.5 hours that I'm there online. So, if anyone notices that I spam these forums M-F, 8am - 5pm EST, on a regular basis.. that's why.
While on the subject of my job, I might as well include this.. I had my 2nd interview with Tickets.com last Friday, and should know by the end of next week if I get the job with them. I would be working as a general "support specialist" for them, and hopefully working towards one of their "tier 2 reps" which is more web oriented. It's still not necessarily what I "want" to do, but it's more money, and definitely more interesting, so fingers crossed!
More related to the scope of this website.. I've been doing freelance graphic/web design for quite a few years now, and have wanting to get more serious into it as of the last 6 months or so. For now, I've been settling with a few clients here and there as a "side job" but I have been saving up, and really want to take a month off, and see if I could manage a full time career as a freelancer.. or at least see if I would be able to round up enough work to survive. This is what I love to do.. this is what I would love to do for the rest of my life.. now I just need to get my foot in the door somewhere, or head out on my own!
Besides my horrible habit of typing too much (been tested at 115wpm which doesn't help), I guess that's about all that I can think of offhand.
Oh yea, I play the guitar too! :thumbsup:
wow, i feel so close to you
wow, i feel so close to you now. I feel like a can start calling you "Bro", now. lol, just play'n
CupidsToejam wrote:wow, i
wow, i feel so close to you now. I feel like a can start calling you "Bro", now. lol, just play'n
Haha.. I know, right! I was thinking about that earlier today.. "what the hell did I write in that post last night?" lol..
I wouldn't need to include much more to pretty much have every major detail of my life in there. I shouldn't post things late at night I guess.. I start to ramble on about whatever pops in my head.
Well heck, might as well go
Well heck, might as well go ahead and introduce myself.
My name's Patrick and I live in Big D here in Texas. Yes, I'm a huge Stars and Cowboys fan. I'm also big into soccer, with my favs being FC Dallas here locally and I think I've adopted Newcastle as my favorite club from the EPL.
Grew up playing music, went to a performing arts high school, went to a great music university, toured with a few decently big name artists and bands, meanwhile learning graphic and web design. When the music career didn't really pan out the way I hoped, started doing design full time. I'm now 29, work for a small marketing company, and am getting my own design business off the ground in the meantime just like everyone else.
Dust, dust, anyone? (Sorry, just finished watching all the seasons of Little Britain)
sure, why not
I'm john, I'm 46, and live near NYC. I'm an I.T. exec - but that's just work, how boring...
* I'm an avid stock market trader and am a disciple of the Elliott Wave theory
* I study and teach Tai Chi Kung Fu and swordplay
* I have been playing Bass Guitar in gigging rock -n- roll bands since 1978
Lastly, I have a wonderful wife and family that let's me do all this crazy stuff besides waking up, going to work, coming home, and watching TV.
Hey, I go to Devshed, am 17
Hey, I go to Devshed, am 17 years old, and I still sometimes go to Sitepoint even though I'm not supposed to *Stomme_poes lol*
Why not supposed to? But
Why not supposed to? But anyway, welcome.
Just to say hello
I guess CSS is the future of html, so I guess I'd better stop playing catch-up & find out about it!
TBH, I have 'fiddled' with CSS but am finding it very confusing. I have reverse engineered some sites and got even more confused, so here I am!
Thanks for taking the time & effort to create this site.
New Forest hey? I was there camping the other week in Ashurst and I share my last name with a village there (Burley). Anyhow, welcome.
And yeah, it is confusing for a while then you suddenly realise some core principles and it all makes sense (like most languages I guess) so stick with it and it'll be very rewarding
I am Bryan Smith, working for a software development company. You can hire PHP programmers from my Software Development India company. anyone interested can contact me.
// Mod edit: Using a post for commercial solicitation is rather crass, and is against forum rules. I have disabled the links. --gary.turner
Oh, and didn't one of you lovely regulars share my birthday? I've forgotten who now.
Regardless, Happy Birthday
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