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nexia
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"Best viewed with IE/Netscape/Mozilla" ...

on your site, you do chosed one of these ?!... and why ?!

on my site, i prefer Mozilla suite... i personally use Camino, browser for mac OS-X... and i think any person can choose their best Mozilla version for their needs...

your opinion ?!

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No preferences...

My personal feeling is that "Best Viewed in..." conveys an impression that the developer couldn't/didn't bother producing a site that would work cross-browser. Unless you're actively trying to promote a particular browser platform for its own sake, I'd avoid it.

After all, it's not going to do you much good reading "Best Viewed in Internet Explorer 6" when you're browsing from a Linux box or a Palm...

Anonymous
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What browser you advertise for on your site ?!

I'd love to see everyone surfing in Gecko based browsers, but it really doesn't matter as long as what they do use complies with Web standards.

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What browser you advertise for on your site ?!

Your site is "best viewed" in whatever browser the user is using. Because that's what he has and he's not going to run out and buy a new computer or download another browser just to visit your site.

Telling the user that your site is best viewed in another browser different from what they have gives them the feeling that they are wrong to be using what they are using.

It tells other web developers that the author was too lazy to make his site work across multiple browsers.

Sorry for being blunt. These ideas aren't mine. I read them recently in a really good article on the subject. Just looked, couldn't find it, if I do I'll post it.

Dean

Anonymous
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What browser you advertise for on your site ?!

Deanimal, I strongly disagree with what you say. "Best viewed with" is not the same thing is "only viewable in." You may be using a technology that one browser supports but others don't, but that doesn't mean that graceful degradation isn't possible. Another thing is that the whole "hide the fact that the user's browser sucks" thing is stupid. You shouldn't insult the user or require an upgrade for viewing, but educating the user on the benefits of upgrading and then letting him choose whether to do so or not is good. Not that I'm for using proprietary technologies; it's just that this condescending attitude towards readers angers me.

Anonymous
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http://www.anybrowser.com/

http//www.anybrowser.com/ its a site about the evils of proprietary browser stuff. good stuff.

-lairpie

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What browser you advertise for on your site ?!

<RANT>

Well, I happen to run Linux (Gentoo) at home, so when I'm writing anything for the web from home, well, naturally it will be Gecko based.

When I'm at work, it is microsoft based, so, naturally, I write stuff for IE, because that's what _all_ our clients use.

So, when I'm not too busy at work, I usually take a look at my site using IE, and it _never_ renders properly.

But, to be quite honest, I'm really not that concerned about how IE does, or doesn't render my site, 'cause, well quite frankly I'm not an IE fan. Besides it will _not_ be changing anytime in the foreseeable future, so why code for a buggy technology that won't be improving any time soon?

Certainly, I'm not saying that the Gecko Engine is "God's Gift to Web Developers (TM)" (but it is Laughing out loud ). Of course it has quirks of it's own, but they're usually "Honest To Goodness (TM)" bugs, not a proprietary technology that anything else will just choke on. (Try _any_ of these with a Gecko-based browser)

So, just to bring my rant to a close. I will write for Gecko for anything that is not work related. Of course, I always stick to standards, and that is what I'll always stick to. Once the masses learn that they have options out there when it comes to computer technology, (be it Internet, Operating Systems, Game Boxes, etc.), I guess they'll just lose out. Laughing out loud

</RANT>

Thanks for hearin' me out.

jasonm

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What browser you advertise for on your site ?!

I don't have a "best viewed with" message on my sites, except the one wrapped in <span style="display:none;"></span>

I don't have any problem telling someone with NS4 they're using a bad browser.