Mon, 2007-04-02 01:26
Hi,
I'm a newbie to CSS. I picked up a CSS book a few months ago and tried create the page below using Dreamweaver. I nearly pulled all the hair out of my head before I came to realize that Dreamweaver and CSS do not work well together. This was also recently affirmed in a recent post on this site! At any rate, I eventually came across CSS Creator and the CSS Generator Tool....so I used it to create the page below and it worked beautifully (across multiple browers too: IE7, NS7.1, Opera 9). Many thanks for that!
Here's my problem: I want to print this page on a all-white background, minus the header/buttons/image, and with a border around the left column, main column and footer area. Most of this is good except the border between the left and main columns. Placing it in leftcol or maincol causes the leftcol to either disappear or end up elsewhere on the printed page. Any thoughts about how to make this happen?
The page: http://www.womantours.com/csscreator2.html
The CSS: http://www.womantours.com/csscreator2.css
Thanks for your time!
Mon, 2007-04-02 08:04
#1
Now your not thinking in
Now your not thinking in terms of web browser display but in terms of layout design for print medium, the first thing I would do is convert to absolute dimensions expressed in inches/cm fonts/borders in pt/pc etc.
Design your layout to fit exactly the dimensions of a sheet of A4.
Mon, 2007-04-02 17:24
#2
pt/pc?
Thanks for the help Hugo...I'll look into it. BTW...what is pt/pc?
Mon, 2007-04-02 17:29
#3
tmt1630 wrote:Thanks for the
tmt1630 wrote:
Thanks for the help Hugo...I'll look into it. BTW...what is pt/pc?
Methinks a typo (of the type that are strewn all across my posts 
)
The c is next to the x on the keyboard, so read it as pt/px (points/pixels)
CT
Mon, 2007-04-02 17:40
#4
no no pt/pc (points/picas)
no no pt/pc (points/picas) no pixels in printer
Mon, 2007-04-02 17:43
#5
Ahhh....points/pixels!
Hugo had me second-guessing my understanding of CSS. pt/pc? What the $*@&! is that?!? pt/px makes complete sense! Appreciate the clarification.
Mon, 2007-04-02 17:44
#6
You're killing me
OK, OK...points/picas!
Mon, 2007-04-02 18:05
#7
Picas Slaps head. Forgotten
Picas
Slaps head. Forgotten about them.
Mon, 2007-04-02 18:21
#8
all I can remember is they
all I can remember is they bigger than pt
Mon, 2007-04-02 20:46
#9
A pica is 12 pt., ? inch,
A pica is 12 pt., ⅙ inch, or about 16 px at normal screen resolutions.
cheers,
gary
Mon, 2007-04-02 20:57
#10
Oh golly, this could go on
Oh golly, this could go on ...
http://typophile.com/node/29989
The microsoft link is quite edifying.
Mon, 2007-04-02 21:17
#11
kk5st wrote:A pica is 12
kk5st wrote:
A pica is 12 pt., ⅙ inch, or about 16 px at normal screen resolutions.
cheers,
gary
Oh, I kneeew that gary :rolleyes:
lets not get started on typography, I've found so many arcane sites dealing with typograhy in general and web typography in particular that are fascinating, love that sort of stuff I'm the web equivelent of a trainspotter.
Tue, 2007-04-03 01:29
#12
I've learned more about
I've learned more about picas than I wanted to! I'm going to go off and work with my points/picas now. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Enjoyed the picas banter!
Mon, 2007-04-09 01:53
#13
Follow-up---it's better, but not quite there yet.
I've converted to absolute dimensions and designed around a A4 page as suggested by Hugo in the second post (at least I think I've done that!). The results of the print preview in IE7.0 is nice. The the results of print preview in FF 2.0.0.3 shows the right column being cut off. I've monkeyed around with margins, but it consistently cuts the right column off. This happens in NS7.1 and Opera 9 too.
A slimmed down example of the problem can be found here:
The HTML: http://www.womantours.com/csscreator4-lite.html
The CSS: http://www.womantours.com/csscreator4-lite.css
Any thoughts on why this happens?
Thanks!!
Sun, 2007-04-15 16:00
#14
Issue resolved
Hi Folks...you can mark this problem solved. I understand why there were no responses to my previous post...it's been well documented in the past! Since that time, I've been able to satisfactorily format a print version that works well all the browsers I've tested. I have a separate issue though, but I'll start that in another thread.
Thanks!
Sun, 2007-04-15 16:10
#15
Apologies actually missed
Apologies actually missed the fact that you had posted anew to the thread.
So what was the problem? the absolute positioning of the main column?
Mon, 2007-04-23 23:35
#16
It really came down to
It really came down to getting the columns the right size. If they were too big, the paper margin cut them off. It took a bunch of trial-n-error...but I got it there.