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Hey all-

I'm new here but I was wondering if you'd be willing to check out my site.

It's not done yet, the graphics and colors are kinda cheesy and I plan on changing them but I just wanted to get something on the page so that I could test the functionality at least. Right now the only things that work are the lighting design page, and the first picture on the first page of pictures.

On that picture's page, mousing over the I pops up an info box for that shot.

The main question I have is the CSS functionality in Firefox. The page works fine in IE but in Firefox it's completely *beep*ed, and I really have no idea why... Thanks.

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I've just looked at your page and it was absolutely fantastic. No problem whatsoever. Wink

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Link ?

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ro88o wrote:
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Heh... wow, yeah.

http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/bjroy2/www/portfolio/home.html

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might want to take a look in something other than IE... not at all what you intended.... and validate your code as well.

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What is the purpose of using frames in this case?

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rmfred wrote:
might want to take a look in something other than IE... not at all what you intended.... and validate your code as well.

Well I validated the CSS and as far as I can tell there isn't anything wrong with it... any suggestions?

I used frames so that I could have the frame with all the pictures in it change without having the rest of the interface disappear. I guess I could have done that with div boxes too but I figured it was easier with frames.

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Ok so I got the site looking the way I want it to end up looking, I think...

I also fixed the problem with Firefox so that it was displaying perfectly fine locally in Firefox and IE, but when I uploaded it again it's still all messed up in Firefox.

Any help on this? It's like it's not finding the path to the CSS files or something, though I'm pretty sure that it's correct... It works perfect in Firefox when I view it locally. I'm stumped...

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Well looking at the source for that page puzzled me you have the following

</head> 
 
<frameset rows="*,423,*" cols="778*" framespacing="0" frameborder="0"> 
	<frame name="top" src="top.html" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" noresize="noresize" /> 
		<frameset cols="*,15,650,15,*" rows="*" framespacing="0" frameborder="0"> 
 
			<frame name="left" src="left.html" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" noresize="noresize" /> 
			<frame name="borderleft" src="borderleft.html" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" noresize="noresize" /> 
				<frameset rows="15,40,353,15" cols="*" framespacing="0" frameborder="0"> 
					<frame name="bordertop" src="bordertop.html" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" noresize="noresize" /> 
					<frame name="topbar" src="topbar.html" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" noresize="noresize" /> 
						<frameset cols="*,491" rows="*" framespacing="0" frameborder="0"> 
							<frame name="navbar" src="navbar.html" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" noresize="noresize" /> 
							<frame name="display" src="pages/ld1.html" frameborder="0" scrolling="auto" noresize="noresize" /> 
						</frameset> 
 
					<frame name="borderbottom" src="borderbottom.html" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" noresize="noresize" /> 
				</frameset> 
				<frame name="borderright" src="borderright.html" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" noresize="noresize" /> 
				<frame name="right" src="right.html" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" noresize="noresize" /> 
		</frameset> 
	<frame name="bottom" src="bottom.html" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" noresize="noresize" /> 
</frameset> 
<noframes> 
<body> 
</body> 
</noframes> 
</html> 
Surely the framesets should be between
<body> 
 ....... all of the code .... 
</body> 
You have it after the closed </head> and before everything else. :?

If you look at the above, in reality there is NO content as such. How the hell IE gets it right I don't know, but then that dosen't surprise me either Wink :roll:

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How the hell did you manage to break my browser?

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The frameset code doesn't go in the body... The issue isn't that it's not displaying the frameset. The frameset works fine in Firefox and in IE, but Firefox isn't taking the CSS properly for some reason.

The thing I want to know is why it works perfectly in BOTH browsers when I view them locally, i.e. open the files off my computer, but Firefox doesn't view correctly when I view it off the server...

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If you insist on using years out of date techniques like framesets then I think you have to expect to be on your own.

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Ed Seedhouse wrote:
If you insist on using years out of date techniques like framesets then I think you have to expect to be on your own.

Hey asshole... first of all, I solved the problem myself and it was that the server was sending the CSS files as the wrong mime type. It had nothing to do with frames. Maybe if any of you had actually looked at my site beyond seeing that I was using frames you may have figured that out.

Second, I fail to see how using frames is considered "years out of date" when it works perfectly fine for the purpose I used it for. Get off your high horse. I apologize for coming here thinking I could get any real help, when the only "suggestion" anyone made was claiming I needed to put the frameset code within the body tags, which is WRONG.

Jesus christ...

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plaitoh wrote:
Ed Seedhouse wrote:
If you insist on using years out of date techniques like framesets then I think you have to expect to be on your own.

Hey *beep*... first of all, I solved the problem myself and it was that the server was sending the CSS files as the wrong mime type. It had nothing to do with frames.

Well, I seem to recall you asking for help, and some of us trying to give it to you.

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Maybe if any of you had actually looked at my site beyond seeing that I was using frames you may have figured that out.

Sorry, I don't have enough time or energy to fight my way through messes of frames.

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Second, I fail to see how using frames is considered "years out of date"

Feel free to educate yourself. Or not - it's no skin off my neck. Just out of curiosity you might google on"frames bad" sometime. Or you might want to find out how you can get the same effect as frames with much less difficulty using web standards and CSS. Or not, it's a free country.

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I apologize for coming here thinking I could get any real help, when the only "suggestion" anyone made was claiming I needed to put the frameset code within the body tags, which is WRONG.

I would be happy to personally refund all the money you paid us for our bad advice.

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I apologize for coming here thinking I could get any real help

Well to be fair you are coming to a site about CSS asking help about a technique I would think no-one here would use :roll:

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I apologize for coming here thinking I could get any real help

Well to be fair you are coming to a site about CSS asking help about a technique I would think no-one here would use :roll:

Did any of you people even read my posts? Whether or not I used frames, the problem I was having with my site was a problem WITH CSS, NOT WITH THE FRAMES. It had nothing whatsoever to do with frames!

If you'd actually looked at my site, you'd see that it uses a ton of CSS, which is what I was having a problem with, and ended up fixing myself on my own volition.

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plaitoh wrote:
Did any of you people even read my posts? Whether or not I used frames, the problem I was having with my site was a problem WITH CSS, NOT WITH THE FRAMES. It had nothing whatsoever to do with frames!

Did you even read any of the "how to post" messages? If you had you'd have discovered that this site exists to help people with modern layout methods using css and html. Just because you use CSS for some things doesn't mean you are using modern standard methods. We'd be all over you if you were using tables for layout too.

Yet here you are demanding that we give you free service in exactly the way you want it.

We give you the advice we think is correct an appropriate. If you don't want it feel free to ignore it and go elsewhere - somewhere they do things your way, if you can find it.

Or, if you like, you could find out what you did wrong, starting with posting in the wrong forum the wrong way, and learn to do it better. Your choice.

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