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http://code.google.com/webstats/index.html

makes for some very interesting reading.

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Google's Web Authoring Stats

An interesting if not unsurprising set of results, some of which makes one want to weep Crying

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There are more <o:p> elements (from Microsoft Office) on the Web than there are <h6> elements

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GoLive's footprints are all over the Web. A scary number of pages use <table gridx="" gridy="" showgridx="" showgridy="">, not to mention the multitude of <csscriptdict>, <csactiondict>, and <csobj> elements.

or in some cases spit fury

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One conclusion one can draw from the spread of attributes used on the body element is that authors don't care about what the specifications say. Of these top twenty attributes, nine are completely invalid, and five have been deprecated for nearly eight years, half the lifetime of the Web so far.
*sigh*

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Amazing it is, just how many soi-disant web developers have no clue. Maybe I'm spoiled by the css oriented environment I find myself in due to this and a couple of other forums. Even when I'm brought problems by my design house clients, it doesn't register because, hey, they're just designers, and what do they know, anyway? Wink

One other thing I learned from that article is that my Firefox 1.5 doesn't render, or renders only partly, the svg graphs in Win98[1]. I had to slide over to the Debian box to view them. I'll assume that Win98se is the limiting factor unless shown otherwise. Sad

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[1] Yes, I know that's a bit old. I bought all three of my current boxes in late 2000, and have had no compelling reason to replace them or their oses. The Winbox is fine for IE6 as long as I reboot every couple of days or less, and the Linux box runs Debian Etch and every application/utility/library/&c. (all 904 packages) is the latest version up to two or three days ago. (I gave Mom the third, with instructions to never ever click on the blue E)

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Hm, Didn't render the graphics in FF1.7 Win XP SP1, does render them in FF 1.5 XP SP2 Looks as though it's a combination of browser and OS.

The graphics do make sense of the information Smile

Win98se a tad old, but I think it's about time you treated yourself to a new box Gary, circa 2000 they must be pentium II no? time for a nice AMD 64.

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They do have a sense of humour these googly people, this had me chuckling,

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There really is no reason for using language these days. It's been deprecated since forever, and quite obviously a lot of people can't spell it.

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Firefox 1.7 didn't/doesn't support svg. Firefox 1.5 does, but not on my 98se box.

I'll have you know that five years ago my PIII, 733mHz, 128mB boxes were state of the art! I kinda would like to have a dual core AMD64 w/2gB memory for a new Debian box. Smile Wouldn't the GIMP fly on that? And, I guess, a new whatever gets me by box for Vista. I guess Vista/IE7 will be the 'compelling reason' for the upgrade. Crying

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FF1.7 well excuse me :roll: Smile

PIII 733mHz naturally was state of the art, totaly blown out of the water by a budget Duron 1.8 Smile now obsolete though, all the boxes I ever build are state of the art just a pity that state of the art lasts around 6 months absolute tops. Your biggest problem, 128mb memory , far too low to be useful for any OS, Windoze runs at a crawl in 128mbs, next to useless, system requires most of that just to load forget running apps especially graphics editing.

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Which is why I still run 98. Of course the Linux box is totally happy and quick like a bunny, unless I've got a large compile going.

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