19 replies [Last post]
clubamigos
Offline
Enthusiast
Last seen: 14 years 34 weeks ago
Joined: 2006-01-26
Posts: 56
Points: 0

I would like to move the text to the right slight on the home page so that the words "twenty" and "forty" are not on a new line but on the same line as the current sentence.

http://clubamigos.port5.com

Any help would be appreciated.[/url]

Hugo
Hugo's picture
Offline
Moderator
London
Last seen: 5 years 36 weeks ago
London
Joined: 2004-06-06
Posts: 15668
Points: 2806

Increase margin width of text

:? Why have you then set those three words in a new paragraph, you do realise that a paragraph is a block level element and as such occupies it's own line ? how do those words constitute a new paragraph, that said text wraps thats whats it's meant to do so if the sentence is too wide it will wrap to a new line.

Hugo.

Before you make your first post it is vital that you READ THE POSTING GUIDELINES!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Please post ALL your code - both CSS & HTML - in [code] tags
Please validate and ensure you have included a full Doctype before posting.
Why validate? Read Me

clubamigos
Offline
Enthusiast
Last seen: 14 years 34 weeks ago
Joined: 2006-01-26
Posts: 56
Points: 0

Increase margin width of text

I have done this because l wanted a larger gap between text.

thepineapplehead
thepineapplehead's picture
Offline
Guru
Last seen: 26 weeks 3 days ago
Joined: 2004-06-30
Posts: 9668
Points: 801

Increase margin width of text

Use this instead:

<p>
Club Amigos!
<em>( Amigos : Spanish for friends )</em>
A friendly and welcoming social club based in Southampton, UK which welcomes anyone from the ages of twenty to forty.
The idea of the club came about as a way for people to participate in exciting activities and make new friends.
We meet every Thursday at Bar Risa in Above Bar Street, Southampton at around 8.30pm.
See full <a href="map_details.html" target="_self">map details</a>.</p>

and

p {line-height: 1.2em; }

Verschwindende wrote:
  • CSS doesn't make pies

Lorraine
Lorraine's picture
Offline
Elder
UK
Last seen: 14 years 4 weeks ago
UK
Timezone: GMT+1
Joined: 2005-01-04
Posts: 1001
Points: 0

Increase margin width of text

Quote:
<em>( Amigos : Spanish for friends )</em>

Shock Not semantic according to a many peeps although there will always be those who beg to differ :roll:

clubamigos
Pop back here for a moment and perhaps add to your understanding by popping over to here

clubamigos
Offline
Enthusiast
Last seen: 14 years 34 weeks ago
Joined: 2006-01-26
Posts: 56
Points: 0

Increase margin width of text

Thanks for that.

Anonymous
Anonymous's picture
Guru

Increase margin width of text

Lorraine wrote:
Quote:
<em>( Amigos : Spanish for friends )</em>

Shock Not semantic according to a many peeps although there will always be those who beg to differ :roll:
Thanks for pointing that out, Lor. Smile

It seems I have got this one all together wrong.

Hugo
Hugo's picture
Offline
Moderator
London
Last seen: 5 years 36 weeks ago
London
Joined: 2004-06-06
Posts: 15668
Points: 2806

Increase margin width of text

*sigh* it's all a mess when you get down to the nitty gritty of things, 'confusion' seems to be the only true semantic tag.

Before you make your first post it is vital that you READ THE POSTING GUIDELINES!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Please post ALL your code - both CSS & HTML - in [code] tags
Please validate and ensure you have included a full Doctype before posting.
Why validate? Read Me

Lorraine
Lorraine's picture
Offline
Elder
UK
Last seen: 14 years 4 weeks ago
UK
Timezone: GMT+1
Joined: 2005-01-04
Posts: 1001
Points: 0

Increase margin width of text

Die Hard 4 wrote:
Thanks for pointing that out, Lor.

Didn't mean you Tri. You were asking a question on the other thread, not err... pontificating.
I don't see what's wrong with <i></i> myself. Still valid, merely visual formatting, has no idiomatic connotations. Whaaaaaaasup with it - unfashionable?

Hugo, as you know I do as little *theory* as possible but I love the confusional possibilities of semantic pedantics Tongue

Hugo
Hugo's picture
Offline
Moderator
London
Last seen: 5 years 36 weeks ago
London
Joined: 2004-06-06
Posts: 15668
Points: 2806

Increase margin width of text

Quote:
confusional possibilities of semantic pedantics

Blimey, do what.

Of course <i> is the perfect and only natural choice in this posters context, isn't it 8-[ but then it's meshing content and presentation, or is it.

If you haven't got the theory of this down pat yet Lorraine I don't know who has here. We look to you for words of wisdom in these matters Smile so pray instruct us what's right or wrong, black and white, Yin and Yan, absolute and dissolute.

Before you make your first post it is vital that you READ THE POSTING GUIDELINES!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Please post ALL your code - both CSS & HTML - in [code] tags
Please validate and ensure you have included a full Doctype before posting.
Why validate? Read Me

Lorraine
Lorraine's picture
Offline
Elder
UK
Last seen: 14 years 4 weeks ago
UK
Timezone: GMT+1
Joined: 2005-01-04
Posts: 1001
Points: 0

Increase margin width of text

I dare say, dear H, it all depends on the original intent behind the introduction of <i> and <b> and <strong> and <em> and <cite> and... what else... oh yes <defn> has come back to life again. Shock I'll bet there are more of these do-dahs lurking in someone's bookmarks.
A bit like floats really. The creators have truly embraced and thoroughly understood the semantics of those little thingies - this is just a further step into the abyss :twisted:

thepineapplehead
thepineapplehead's picture
Offline
Guru
Last seen: 26 weeks 3 days ago
Joined: 2004-06-30
Posts: 9668
Points: 801

Increase margin width of text

Lorraine wrote:
I dare say, dear H, it all depends on the original intent behind the introduction of <i> and <b> and <strong> and <em> and <cite> and... what else... oh yes <defn> has come back to life again. Shock I'll bet there are more of these do-dahs lurking in someone's bookmarks.

http://www.w3schools.com/tags/default.asp

Laughing out loud

Verschwindende wrote:
  • CSS doesn't make pies

Hugo
Hugo's picture
Offline
Moderator
London
Last seen: 5 years 36 weeks ago
London
Joined: 2004-06-06
Posts: 15668
Points: 2806

Increase margin width of text

Oh I do think that you will find that was a Need an Intent would imply that they did indeed have a purpose to which and ever after more did they truly wish....oh my head hurts today, I think I feel the dark comfort of the abyss beckoning.

How I do truly wish that I could leave this confused mess behind and embrace XML with all the fervour of a long lost love. I want to create my own flipping tags.

Before you make your first post it is vital that you READ THE POSTING GUIDELINES!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Please post ALL your code - both CSS & HTML - in [code] tags
Please validate and ensure you have included a full Doctype before posting.
Why validate? Read Me

Hugo
Hugo's picture
Offline
Moderator
London
Last seen: 5 years 36 weeks ago
London
Joined: 2004-06-06
Posts: 15668
Points: 2806

Increase margin width of text

TPH you've mucked the forum up!!

Before you make your first post it is vital that you READ THE POSTING GUIDELINES!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Please post ALL your code - both CSS & HTML - in [code] tags
Please validate and ensure you have included a full Doctype before posting.
Why validate? Read Me

thepineapplehead
thepineapplehead's picture
Offline
Guru
Last seen: 26 weeks 3 days ago
Joined: 2004-06-30
Posts: 9668
Points: 801

Increase margin width of text

Ficksed. Hate it when HTML happens Laughing out loud

Verschwindende wrote:
  • CSS doesn't make pies

Anonymous
Anonymous's picture
Guru

Increase margin width of text

Lorraine wrote:
I dare say, dear H, it all depends on the original intent behind the introduction of <i> and <b> and <strong> and <em> and <cite> and... what else... oh yes <defn> has come back to life again. Shock I'll bet there are more of these do-dahs lurking in someone's bookmarks.
I was just thinking about that. If the intent is to make the text italics for no other reason than to make the text italics then <i> is semantic after all. Tongue

Semantics, feh! FEH!!!

Laughing out loud Wink

Lorraine
Lorraine's picture
Offline
Elder
UK
Last seen: 14 years 4 weeks ago
UK
Timezone: GMT+1
Joined: 2005-01-04
Posts: 1001
Points: 0

Increase margin width of text

Smile Is this the dawning of the age of logical pragmatics?
Keripes, Gary's coming

gary.turner
gary.turner's picture
Offline
Moderator
Dallas
Last seen: 4 hours 2 min ago
Dallas
Timezone: GMT-5
Joined: 2004-06-25
Posts: 9767
Points: 3849

Increase margin width of text

Eh? Did someone call?

I was going to pass on this thread, but my name was invoked.

It is my vaunted opinion that <i>, <b>, <em> and <strong> should be deprecated in favor of css. The <u> tag is, thankfully, already deprecated.

But, being the pragmatist that I am, and with the knowledge that original intent has no bearing on present usage[1], there are typographical conventions that call for italic, bold or underscored text. For example, article titles are traditionally italicized, while journal and book titles are either in bold or are underlined. Presentational markup would suggest <i>, <b> or <u> tags. Present philosophy demands that presentational markup be moved to the stylesheet.

I would argue that <em> and <strong> also belong in css rather than in the html markup. Trouble is, there is no css property that matches, unless volume? Further, browser support is zip. So, if you want emphasis or emphasis+ for screen readers, you're stuck with html markup.

In sum, if you need typographic convention, use <i> or <b> or better, use style. If you want to indicate stress, use <em> or <strong> because there is nothing better.

May I go back to my postprandial nap now?

cheers,

gary

[1] Else, we would be encouraged to stay with table layouts.

If your web page is as clever as you can make it, it's probably too clever for you to debug or maintain.

Chris..S
Chris..S's picture
Offline
Moderator
Last seen: 8 years 1 day ago
Timezone: GMT+1
Joined: 2005-02-22
Posts: 6078
Points: 173

Increase margin width of text

I vote,

<i> to mean inline, kick <span> into touch.
<b> to mean block, kick <div> into touch.

Save our keyboards!

I reckon I can remember one letter for each hand.

gary.turner
gary.turner's picture
Offline
Moderator
Dallas
Last seen: 4 hours 2 min ago
Dallas
Timezone: GMT-5
Joined: 2004-06-25
Posts: 9767
Points: 3849

Increase margin width of text

Now there is a truly pragmatic suggestion. Laughing out loud

BTW, does any of this have anything to do with the OP's question?

cheers,

gary

If your web page is as clever as you can make it, it's probably too clever for you to debug or maintain.