Mon, 2006-01-23 08:14
Hi
The link:
Been away a few weeks coz my broadband conenction is a bit flaky (which means I can't always log in). Anyway, this is posted from work (looks over shoulder ... good, no boss!).
I've used the time to start work on a new version of my Pagemaker Tool and build my website from scratch. Right now, I'm reasonably happy with the Home Page, which I have used to throw in bits from other pages to get the look and feel of the various parts of the page (none of the links work!).
Does the color scheme work?
How does it look at other than 1024x768 and 800x600?
How does it work on Mac browsers? (Not bothered if it breaks in IE Mac, as long as it is readable, ish.)
It *should work in latest versions of FF, Opera and IE, and even back to IE5 PC (ish, but I'm not too bothered about IE 5.x as long as it is readable). It *should* work in all but ancient versions of Gecko based browsers.
I think I allowed for font sizing up or down (can look a bit small) by 2 sizes only each way.
Text only should look Ok, albeit the bits are in odd places (the header at the end).
All feedback welcome! 
Trevor
Mon, 2006-01-23 12:39
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SiteUnderConstruction.net needs a look n feel check
Hi
The site looks exactly the same on FF, Opera and Safari on the mac - in fact with the blue scrollbars it adds to the colour scheme!
Only thing I've found is that on IE6 when the font is scaled up to Largest the "Latest Articles" and "CSS Techniques" sections are bumped down below the main text area.
Personal preference here but I'd bung in a bit more left/right padding on the main text area.
Mon, 2006-01-23 13:52
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Hi
HellsBells wrote:
Only thing I've found is that on IE6 when the font is scaled up to Largest the "Latest Articles" and "CSS Techniques" sections are bumped down below the main text area.
Fixed.
Quote:
Personal preference here but I'd bung in a bit more left/right padding on the main text area.
I agree. Done
Thanks.
Trevor
Mon, 2006-01-23 19:01
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If anyone says anything negative, I'll personally bite them! :twisted:
That's how much I like it. 
Mon, 2006-01-23 19:04
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<a href="#" title="AQA A-Level & CCEA/ICAA GCSE ICT project guidance">
Edit: I dig your URL name.
Mon, 2006-01-23 19:38
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Triumph wrote:
If anyone says anything negative, I'll personally bite them! :twisted:
That's how much I like it.
Oooh flirting!
Tue, 2006-01-24 07:12
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Hi
n8gz4ez wrote:
<a href="#" title="AQA A-Level & CCEA/ICAA GCSE ICT project guidance">
Do I need to use & inside the quotes? I knew they were necessary inside the html. Is that what you mean I need to do?
Quote:
Edit: I dig your URL name.
A joke on my part! If we can't laugh at ourselves, who can we laugh at?
Trevor
Tue, 2006-01-24 07:14
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Triumph wrote:
If anyone says anything negative, I'll personally bite them! :twisted:
That's how much I like it.
Aw shucks, I be only a noob (NOT). :oops: :oops: :oops:
Trevor
Tue, 2006-01-24 08:30
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Neat site, great name.
Of course you considered a logo laid out like
CONSTRUCTION
SITE
and discarded it
Tue, 2006-01-24 11:12
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Chris..S wrote:
Neat site, great name.
Of course you considered a logo laid out like
CONSTRUCTION
SITE
and discarded it
Yeh.
I DID think about making the logo a flash file and having the building blocks fly in from all over, the word 'site' slide in from the left, the word 'under' from the bottom and the word 'construction' as a pile of letters that jump up and form the word. But, nah, too naff.
Trevor
Wed, 2006-01-25 02:45
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Hello Trevor. I just saw one unescaped ampersand in line 93.
Anyway, as to your original questions: I think the color scheme is alright, as well as the general layout of the page. But after two text-size increases, the links in the left part get clipped. I also viewed it under 800x600 and 1024x768 and the page looks fine in both resolutions (Firefox/WinXP).
I really like that "site under construction" graphic/domain! Hehehe, nice. Very cleva Treva...
Cheers!
Thu, 2006-01-26 13:51
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ABCruz wrote:
Hello Trevor. I just saw one unescaped ampersand in line 93.
Yeh, I put it in as & now, thanx.
Quote:
But after two text-size increases, the links in the left part get clipped.
Yeh, not much I can do about that. At least it is still readable, ish
Trevor
Thu, 2006-01-26 14:01
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To avoid that problem, at least the vertical clipping, try setting your height & line-height by ems.
Fri, 2006-01-27 13:50
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Chris..S wrote:
To avoid that problem, at least the vertical clipping, try setting your height & line-height by ems.
Hi
The only problem with that is the background image is being changed using sliding doors, which needs pixel sizes to work.
I shall be adding a java style sheet switcher to offer font-sizing.
Such is life.
Trevor
Wed, 2006-02-08 15:08
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ClevaTreva wrote:
I shall be adding a java style sheet switcher to offer font-sizing.
Hi folks, I've added the javascript. It needs cookies enabled for the site too (if you have them disabled by default for all sites, you can allow just this site to set them). The cookie does NOT track your visits, just stores your preferred font-size.
Obviously, it needs Javascript enabled.
The default size is extra small.
I also added a text-only version (the text is slightly different for obvious reasons of its reference to page design, which isn't there on the text-only version, doh!).
Can you check it looks OK and doesn't break?
Trevor
Wed, 2006-02-08 16:17
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ClevaTreva wrote:
ClevaTreva wrote:I shall be adding a java style sheet switcher to offer font-sizing.
Hi folks, I've added the javascript.So, which is it? Java or javascript? 
I disable java on all browsers. Java is dead (hopefully).
Wed, 2006-02-08 17:03
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I disable Java too. First thing I do with a new browser.
Wed, 2006-02-08 23:16
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Triumph wrote:
ClevaTreva wrote:ClevaTreva wrote:I shall be adding a java style sheet switcher to offer font-sizing.
Hi folks, I've added the javascript.So, which is it? Java or javascript?
I disable java on all browsers. Java is dead (hopefully).
What it is is me bein lazy.
Of COUSRE I MEANT javascript.
Does ANYBODY have java enabled when browsing?
As to whether it is dead, who can tell?
Trevor
Thu, 2006-02-09 02:11
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ClevaTreva wrote:
What it is is me bein lazy.
Of COUSRE I MEANT javascript.
Does ANYBODY have java enabled when browsing?
As to whether it is dead, who can tell?
Just messing around.
Thu, 2006-02-09 02:17
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Triumph wrote:
Java is dead (hopefully).
Not at all, but why would you want it to be?
e.g. Azureus (bit torrent client), Confluence (wiki) are java apps. I am sure there are loads of others about.
Thu, 2006-02-09 07:17
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Chris..S wrote:
Triumph wrote:Java is dead (hopefully).
Not at all, but why would you want it to be?
e.g. Azureus (bit torrent client), Confluence (wiki) are java apps. I am sure there are loads of others about.
HI Chris
I use an app called myspeed to bash my ISP over the head about my broadband speed. The problem is my firewall. If I give myspeed permanent permission to access the internet, ALL java apps get that permission.
Granted, it makes x-OS apps possible (like Arachnophilia, the editor), but it does have its issues. I have never got it working properly on any of the 3 AMD powered PC's I have, but it works on both the Intel based ones. Reading various forum posts, it seems I am not alone in this, yet others don't have it.
PLUS, it is a massive app as far as using resources are concerned.
Trevor
Thu, 2006-02-09 07:34
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Back to the point
Site looks good, but it does not render correctly in Konquerer 3.5. There's a big chunk of the medium blue (like in the right sidebar) at the bottom of the main text section, right above the footer. It doesn't obscure any text, but it is there and doesn't look good.
I love the color scheme. I'm using a similar one of my own personal website.
Thu, 2006-02-09 12:27
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Chris..S wrote:
Triumph wrote:Java is dead (hopefully).
Not at all, but why would you want it to be?
e.g. Azureus (bit torrent client), Confluence (wiki) are java apps. I am sure there are loads of others about.I'm sorry, I meant java applets embedded into web pages is dead (at least I hope it is).
Thu, 2006-02-09 18:07
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Re: Back to the point
evilsatan wrote:
... but it does not render correctly in Konquerer 3.5. There's a big chunk of the medium blue (like in the right sidebar) at the bottom of the main text section, right above the footer. It doesn't obscure any text, but it is there and doesn't look good.
Hi
Are you able to provide a screenshot so I can guess what is wrong?
Just thinking about it, the sidebar color is actually the whole central section colour, but the center div itself is over this. That must mean that the div containing this is not rendering to full height.
The offending div is outer, if you look in the css, you will see the color there.
Are you are to do a screenshot and measure the actual pixel height of the block. Does it appear above the shaded base?
Any help you can give would be much appreciated. As you will gues, it looks OK in the other browsers.
Trevor
Fri, 2006-02-10 06:31
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I've attached a jpeg with the offending section shown.
Fri, 2006-02-10 16:36
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Hi
Thanks for the pic.
If, as I suspect it is, the bar is about 82-85 px high and full content width, the left side is over the background shady bit, which means it is appearing either over the top of (not likely) or after the outer div.
It also shows the shady bit on the right, meaning it is inside the wrapper div.
The only thing between these two is the floatcontainer class added to the outer div, which has visibility set to hidden. As it is transparent, it would show through the background from wrapper, which is the sidebar color. But it shouldn't have any height, but obviously has!
I'll try adding line-height:0px and overflow:hidden as well.
So, anyway, I've done that to the css. Did it make any difference?
Trevor
Sat, 2006-02-11 01:48
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It's still there.
I did notice that the problem goes away when you resize the window to make it shorter. So I'm thinking the problem lies in one of the styles in the bottom of you page. I'll try to take a closer look at it and try to diagnose it when I get a day off work. Just PM me to remind me to do so and I'll post any results on this thread.
Thu, 2006-02-16 17:59
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Hi
I think the problem is to do with the text only link, as I can see similar behaviour in Opera, but the extar block is only 12px high and has no background. I'm working on a solution and will post when I have it fixed (at least for Opera).
Trevor