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In case you missed it - a new and improved Web Developer Extension has been released.

http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper/

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http://chrispederick.com/blog/2005/12/31/web-developer-10/

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I was just thinking that EditHTML would be a fantastic addon.

But blimey, that's a lot of bug fixes and features added!

I love him - this and Adblock are my favourite extensions Laughing out loud

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How are you guys getting on with FF1.5?

Are all the extensions and themes updated to 1.5 now?

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Laughing out loud just what I was thinking to ask Chris, just waiting for our beta testers to give the thumbs up to upgrade, can't suffer any problems at the moment Smile

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So far it's all been good. I did install the nightly tester tools which lets you override version compatability to get a few expensions to work at first but other than that i've noticed nothing not working.

TPH, thats strange, I was thinking the same thing today when trying to look at a problem for someone and wanted to tweak the HTML but was frankly too lazy to down load a copy to local and do it the normal way.

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I had not upgraded to Fx1.5 (not brave enough yet) but downloaded the toolbar (there seems to be nothing on the site about Fx versions) and Firefox froze on me. Absolutely nothing worked, eventually I got a Firefox crash screen and a "report to MS message". I did this for the first time ever, followed that through and got

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Microsoft has researched the problem with Mozilla Firefox, and they do not currently have a solution for the problem that you reported.

They went on to refer me back to Firefox, in much the same way as Firefox referred me to MS when a new installation of Fx 1.06 crashed its way around my system.

I'm not saying this is in anyway down to the new toolbar, although Fx crashed immediately after I downloaded it, but if these two browser teams don't stop playing silly games, they need shooting. :twisted:

If I can raise any enthusiasm I *may* remove the existing version Firefox and try to install 1.5, provided it is *proved* to be stable, but I'm glad I didn't rely on Fx as my only browser Smile .

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Hmm. Proud FF1.5 user since Beta1. No problems. No crashes.

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Re: Web Developer 1.0 out now.

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In case you missed it - a new and improved Web Developer Extension has been released.

ahh many thanks briski. lucky that we have you not doing much at work to keep us updated on these important finds!

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Hmm. Proud FF1.5 user since Beta1. No problems. No crashes.

Good for you :roll:

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Lorraine you should realise that it's you, Firefox knows that you have not been gushing enough over it in the past and is just paying you back for less than 1000% enthusiasm Smile FF is a jealous suitor it doesn't like the thought of being two timed with it's arch rival for your affections.

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Thats what I thought might happen when I saw the FF recommending the updates. Seems its something they are going to need to fix.

When I put FF1.5Beta on my laptop it wouldn't take any of the themes or extensions that I have here. But at least all them were able to recognise they couldn't work with 1.5Beta. Its a shame if they can't recognise an incompatibility with a down version.

I guess I need to visit the themes and extensions and check out the user comments to see if they all have "works great with 1.5".

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Hm, think Ill do a dirty upgrade over my spare XP FF 1.07 and then see what remains working and what if any extension upgrades cause problems.

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Well Hugo I remembered the problems *someone* had with self-fulfilling prophecies about the IE Accessibility Toolbar, so thought I'd better persevere, lest I be berated and pilloried. Crying

So, I started the Fx 1.5 download, then went and cooked a meal. My post prandial treat was a brand new installation of Fx 1.5 and Chris they do tell you about incompatibility of some extensions as part of the installation. Bit late then, I guess and unfortunately the three extensions I used most are not compatible with 1.5. Evil

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Did I not mention I eventually got it working Cool that was after successfully managing to install it on a creaking old copy of 5.5 on Win98 :? but not on IE6 XP :? it was them all along as an updated version worked first time , and very nice it is too with many features that webdev could do with.

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Oh dear which are those three then?

FoxyVoice, Checky and PageRank status ('cos I can't be doin' wiv the Google Toolbar Wink ).

Didn't rely on them. FoxyVoice was sort of OK but I can always throw a page at Connect Outloud/JAWS Lite, providing I am using IE (one of my reasons for surfing with IE). Checky was useful in conjunction with some similar facilities in the IE Toolbar.

Other than those, I have to say, I only had DOM Inspector and Tidy. I think Tidy was upgraded during the 1.5 installation process, but I wasn't watching very closely. :oops: So that was a failure rate of three out of five.

It is interesting to read Pederick's blog where he talks about MS and their new Developer Toolbar offering, being very close to (he avoids the term rip-off) his toolbar. Ahem, the IE Web Accessibility Toolbar (nothing to do with MS) has been around for a lot longer than the Fx one Laughing out loud

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As Briski said, for anyone whose 1.0.x extensions aren't working with 1.5, download Nightly Tester Tools (I found downloading from the author's site rather than the FF extension page was the better option) which makes them all compatible with 1.5.

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Thanks, Tyssen
That nightly tools thing does say enforced compatibility is experimental. Nevertheless, PageRanks seems to be working now. The other two are *said* to be compatible in the Extensions Box and I even get a little FoxyVoice icon. It doesn't work though, neither does Checky.
FoxyVoice No link to developer's site
Checky from Sourceforge... 'nuff said.
And the developers seem to be blind/deaf to the pleas in the comments.

Still, never mind, eh? It's not as if this functionality is only available to Firefox users Smile

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well, ff is completely not working for me since I downloaded the updated extension...

I open it and nothing works. I can't enter an url, clicking on anything. my bookmark toolbar is missing.

i don't know what to do and I've had the day from hell which isn't helping. should I reinstall ff completely?? :roll:

this is SO not what I needed.

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Have you tried running FF in safe mode? and then un-installing the extension.

This is so why I haven't upgraded yet, another problem on top of the ones I'm trying to sort would finish me off especially whilst trying to work, trying being the operative word.

Of course if you have dumped your FF profile folder as a backup then you could just delete and re-install and then overwrite the profile folder with your old copy.

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You don't mention which version of Fx you were using when everything froze on you.

It happened to me - I was using Fx 1.07 at the time. So, I removed 1.07 through the Control Panel and installed 1.5. That works... as a bare browser but at least it includes the latest Developer Toolbar which I downloaded earlier. Some of your extensions may not work, however. Depending on what they are you, could try that nightly tester tools thing that Briski and Tyssen mentioned and see if it can enforce compatibility on your extensions. If you have any extensions that don't work in 1.5 I'd suggest a email to or a comment on the blog of the extension developer, but, if you read the comments (seemingly ignored) on the link(Drunk I posted earlier, you may well be wasting your time :roll:

Failing that, you can uninstall 1.5 and re-install your previous version of Fx and the earlier extensions which presumably you placed in a download section on your PC and didn't perform a direct install.

However, have you noticed what's been happening to Opera. It's said to be (almost) as standards compliant as Fx, it includes Voice (talk to and listen to your computer) and a Developer Toolbar to die for Tongue

You're right though, this is the last thing we need. I'm just glad I haven't tried to persuade anyone to switch to Firefox, because then I would have had the same frustration X n times.

:oops: Sorry, H, didn't mean to overpost.

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However, have you noticed what's been happening to Opera. It's said to be (almost) as standards compliant as Fx, it includes Voice (talk to and listen to your computer) and a Developer Toolbar to die for


You are kidding aren't you Lorraine? Opera of all the browsers supports the fullest set of CSS properties up to and including large chunks of CSS3, problem is quantity over quality, it's all very well including the properties but they do need to work correctly and according to many (and my experience) this is far from the case, also their has never been a browser that has managed to RE-INTRODUCE bugs that had been corrected in earlier versions, that must take some doing.

Opera 9 might just get it's act together as they do seem to genuinely desire to do things right, and it is a very nice browser which but for it's rendering engine I like a lot. The developer toolbar I have not seen, must have a look at it. Roll on version 9.

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Except, of course, this one, but for the good offices of a third-party, who apparently had to work quite hard to convince Fx of the bug's existence.
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The good news is that the Mozilla team swung into action at breakneck speed, fixed the bug and checked it into the 1.5 branch (Gecko/20051102) on 2 November 2005 - Firefox 1.5 will not ship with the bug.

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For those who can't find EditHTML, it's under "miscellaneous"

Stupid place to put it Laughing out loud

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I wouldn't have noticed it for months unless you would have said something . . . pretty slick. Laughing out loud

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Well apart from that one :oops: what other browser has ever managed to do that.

Actually I had read that recently, the powers of recall grow dim with the passage of time Crying

At least they managed to, not release it in a RC version just in the nightlies, but who'd have thought it of the infallible Fox.

Anyhow I wonder how Larmyia is getting on, I reckon she is on the fourth re-install and is about to open up her laptop and feed it's gizzards to the cat Smile

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OK, I'll go along with the change of subject Smile
Yes... poor Larmyia and you gotta feel a tad sorry for the cat. I have fox terriers and they just lurve foxes, except they won't go anywhere near this one. Sad

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Anyhow I wonder how Larmyia is getting on, I reckon she is on the fourth re-install and is about to open up her laptop and feed it's gizzards to the cat Smile

well I'm looking at this in IE. if that tells you anything. :sigh:

and fyi I don't (and never will) own a cat. I'm not some mad old spinster (bachelor) like some :roll:

Wink

back to my problem. I'm using the 2nd latest version (ie the one before 1.5). I haven't saved a backup of my bookmarks since a few months ago (I know Hugo I know, but don't give me a hard time OK? it's been a hell of a day). so I'm afraid of losing everything. especially as I lost all my links several months ago when my computer went mental and we had to give it a major overhaul.

is this a lost one? do I just uninstall it and lose my bookmarks? oh firefox, how could you do this to me?!?!

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is this a lost one? do I just uninstall it and lose my bookmarks?

You should be able to copy FF's profile folder (in C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles) which contains your bookmarks before reinstalling.
When you're back up & running, you might also want to look into getting the Bookmarks Synchroniser extension which allows you to upload your bookmarks to an FTP server and download it to whatever machine you're on (I use it for synching between home & work).
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ahhhh crisis averted. thanks Tyssen. I saved my bookmarks, but actually they were fine when I'd installed 1.5. a couple of my extension's don't work, but frankly at this point I'm just glad to get ff back up and running.

gotta go check out that Bookmarks Synchroniser extension....I cannot go thru finding all my bookmarks again.

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Yeah what Tyssen said.

Thats why I mentioned the profile folder always do a simple copy of it to another partitioned drive (always partition your hard drive never run massive volumes) although when you do an install of FF over an existing copy the profile folder is not touched nor is it removed when you uninstall I think.

Export bookmarks as well to an html file that can be re-imported and as Tyssen mentions install 'Bookmarks synchronizer' and ftp the bookmarks to your web space you can set that to run on exit from FF as well as import them on opening FF I've been doing that for a while also means that you can synchronize between copies of FF on various machines keeping one single updated file for all, very neat.

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Don't panic; as I found ou t yesterday, Firefox is awesome and has a myriad of saved files everywhere.

First of all, I bakup my profile every few weeks with mozbackup.

This takes care of everything - extensions, themes, userchrome and usercontent, UI layout, bookmarks, history, cache, the works.

Firefox also has a folder called "bookmarkbackups" that backs up your bookmarks EVERY DAY. Thank God for that, there's been a few times I lost my bookmarks!

If you uninstall Firefox, it should leave your profile folder alone. When you install 1.5, it should just use your existing profile.

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and fyi I don't (and never will) own a cat. I'm not some mad old spinster (bachelor) like some :roll:

I hope you're not suggesting that anyone here falls into that category! Wink

Glad FF back working, I was quite worried there, also do you only store bookmarks on your browser? have you not heard of services like http://del.icio.us ? Although this Bookmarks Synchroniser extension sounds intriguing Laughing out loud

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BMSynchroniser is great if you can get it working.

If you use Firefox at work, at home, at school, etc, you can upload your bookmarks to a site somewhere, and whenever you add a new one - be it at work, home, internet cafe - it adds it to your bookmarks, so when you get home you can download the new stuff and add it to your existing one.

Personally, I never used it, as I always had PortableFirefox Laughing out loud

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larmyia wrote:
and fyi I don't (and never will) own a cat. I'm not some mad old spinster (bachelor) like some :roll:

I hope you're not suggesting that anyone here falls into that category! Wink

:roll: sure. keep on telling that to yourself Tongue

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I was almost at my wits end. it was like losing my best friend and having to talk to that person you never really liked (ie). and frankly briski it was all your fault for bringing to my attention the wonders of an updated web dev tool. I can only hope it fulfills its hype!

apparently version 1.02 works with 1.5...go to http://extensions.geckozone.org/BookmarksSynchronizer and install
Installer Bookmark Synchronizer 1.02

don't say I don't do anything for you! Wink

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I've noticed that since upgrading the webdev toolbar, I can't open up more than one FF window, and any popups won't open at all. Normally, I wouldn't complain, but not everything can be opened in tabs, like javascript windows. Sad

I uninstalled it. Voila. It works. But I need that toolbar! Does anyone else have this problem?

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nix from what I've read here and my own experiences, with the updated webdev toolbar there are a variety of problems. The only solution for me that worked was to upgrade ff to 1.5 (which I didn't really want to do just yet). so far all of my extensions have worked, or there's notes on how to get them to work. I know Lorraine had a few probs with some of her extensions tho...

I guess you just have to weigh up the pros and cons.

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I upgraded to 1.5

I clicked on a flash link that opens a popup window. No go. I click again. Nope. One more time. By this time, a bar scrolls down and informs me that FF is blocking popups. So, I temporarily allow the current popup, and voila! no problem since. Laughing out loud

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