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For the past year or so I have been using phpbb and a custom portal page for my home page. The posts in the forums would be shown on the front page kinda like a blog. Then last night I decided to try out wordpress instead.

All I can say is that I like it a lot. Much less hacking around in the internals to get it to do what I want it to do (I had to do a lot of mods to phpbb to get it to come close to what wordpress does naturally).

It was very easy to apply my css and template (I still have to delete a few extra tags from the original templates but that will come).

The biggest plus is now I don't have to deal with phpbb's constant upgrades. Man that sure is a pain to upgrade through all of my mods.

As soon as someone comes up with a repeating events calendar for wordpress I'll be sure to switch over my church's site as well.

Who blogs? I want to add some links. Wink

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A change for the better.

Have you tried using version control software between the source app and your modified app. This can remove much of the pain in upgrades.

e.g. with darcs

download and install a reference copy of the app.
initialise that as a repository
use darcs to setup your working copy from the reference repo
make adjustments to your working copy (optional: record these)

to upgrade

upgrade reference copy as normal
use darcs to record the upgrade as a patch

go to you working copy
use darcs to apply upgrade patch
if there any conflicts resolve them (conflicts will occur when the same lines of code is modified in both copies)

That "should" simply overcome the repetitive script upgrades and only leave you concerned with any db changes.

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A change for the better.

Presumably if it's a blog app you're after then a blog app you should get, but if you still want the functionality of a forum then consider SMF as it comes with a linked calendar as standard, along with an 'out-of-the-box' feature-set that blows phpBB out of the water. I've just converted a fairly busy phpBB forum to SMF and am mightily impressed with the whole package and how easy it is to convert the phpBB data over intact. I have a couple of minor issues to resolve but hope to post a report of my findings on this forum soon.

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A change for the better.

The only reason I stayed so long with the phpbb in the first place was because I wrote some mods for it. I considered going to another forum system but didn't understand them as well. Eventually, the web page basically formed itself into a bloggish type of thing and a recent upgrade to phpbb (deemed necessary for security or something like that) clinched it. I think 30 pages were to be updated, which I would have had to do by hand.

The porting of the mods from phpbb to wordpress is quite easy and that made the choice even simpler. Besides, wordpress' side menu is set up perfectly for a suckerfish drop down. All I had to do was add the css.

If I can get the repeating events calendar to work then the church site will be next. Then, maybe, I can get someone else to update it. :roll:

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A change for the better.

Wordpress is good but does have a lot of annoying little issues. 1.5 went a long way in improving matters with the theme set up but still left things like the rather confusing way html output is strewn across odd files leaving you hunting around trying to track down why something generates as a ul etc and when your dealing with some 180 odd files it becomes a pain.

Beware though there was a point where fixes were being released as fast as you could upgrade and often it was not clear or even mentioned which files had changed leaving you with a hefty file upload each time and WP support strongly suggesting that people did not ftp files in batches and that they deleted all existing files first,right!. there are people on the support forum though that generally explain what files may have changed version to version and there is a changelog on the WP Wiki , as Chris mentions there is a form of CVS to manage upgrades and is recommended by some on the forum.

I do hope that your not just using the standard Kubrick theme files you have to get down and dirty and start from scratch and build your own Smile

Did you not think of trying TextPattern a lot of people defected to this during the troubles on the WP forums with the infighting and the attitude of the developers.

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A change for the better.

Hugo wrote:
Wordpress is good but does have a lot of annoying little issues. 1.5 went a long way in improving matters with the theme set up but still left things like the rather confusing way html output is strewn across odd files leaving you hunting around trying to track down why something generates as a ul etc and when your dealing with some 180 odd files it becomes a pain.
Well, the fact that all of the markup is separate from the template is really what drew me to it. An upgrade will not affect me in any way other than uploading a few files (or all of them). In fact, since my web host installs WordPress with a click (older version of course :roll: ), I actually did upgrade to 1.5 after I changed the theme and it went quite well.

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I do hope that your not just using the standard Kubrick theme files you have to get down and dirty and start from scratch and build your own Smile
No way am I going to use a standard theme. Wink Actually, I just applied my original web page's CSS to it and tweaked it to work.

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Did you not think of trying TextPattern a lot of people defected to this during the troubles on the WP forums with the infighting and the attitude of the developers.
Hmmm...I'll look into it.

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A change for the better.

The thing is that you will find that in reality there has not been that great a separation but it's not until you build your own themes (not just a css stylesheet, there is confusion as to what constitutes a theme, but it's not just the stylesheet a theme is really all the files that live in a named theme folder ) that this becomes apparent and you will find that you are hunting through files to find where a specific template tag lives so that you can modify the html it generates, in fairness many template tags do work with supplied arguments allowing you to specify what tags you would like say a link list to generate , but there are a number that don't and it gets frustrating as you then find yourself moding the backend files which negates the whole point of a proper theme system and upgrades mean remembering where all the little mods were and then having to re-write them when the file has to be upgraded.

It was always the argument leveled against WP 1.5 that it didn't fully separate html and styling from the backend files.

All that said it is a powerful and flexible system and once you get to grips with the template tags and the 'WP Loop' then you see how easy it is to get away from the 'WP Classic' and 'Kubrick' themes both of which never found much favour, indeed there was much fury when WP announced it was using the kubrick theme as a default install theme.

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A change for the better.

I made the mistake of being an early adopter of WP2.0. Loss of functionality (trackbacks wouldn't work) and grossly slower posting cause me to retrograde back to 1.5

The databases weren't compatible between the versions so I had to manually sift through and rebuild. Tongue

I'm going to wait for WP2.1 before trying that again.

Both the upgrade and the retrograde were simple with my template. Just drop everything in around it and off you go.

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A change for the better.

Triumph wrote:
I'm going to wait for WP2.1 before trying that again.

Probably saved me a few headaches cos I was just looking at WP2 today as something that I'd get around to doing soon.

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A change for the better.

Tyssen wrote:
Triumph wrote:
I'm going to wait for WP2.1 before trying that again.

Probably saved me a few headaches cos I was just looking at WP2 today as something that I'd get around to doing soon.
Glad I could help. Do you have a blog now?

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A change for the better.

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Do you have a blog now?

Not me personally. A site I set up for my local community association uses it: http://www.gapcommunity.trap17.com/

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A change for the better.

Wordpress 2.0.1 is out and it squashed 114 bugs introduced into 2.0 ( :roll: ) 2.0 was not ready for release, it barely qualified as a beta (closer to an alpha release, I'd say).

It seems to be stable and the features are nice.

Not too shabby.

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drupal

I have been using drupal for a couple of work projects and am considering moving most of the site to drupal but keeping the forums as phpbb.
The drupal forums are fairly different to the phpbb forums and I think many users would not like the changes and lack of functionality.
Moving the forums to something else is something I have considered.

I have also had a work mate redesign the site so once I get stuck into it you wont know the place.

The challenge now is to integrate drupal and phpbb specially sessions and users.
In the long term it should make the site easier to manage apart from the continuous upgrades.