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If you really like to be out there on the bleeding edge, there's a new browser in town. It's called Flock, and it's built on Mozilla. I'm checking out v0.4.9 built 21 Oct., 2005, Developer Preview 0.5pre.

It's still not ready for prime time. And it seems to be aimed more toward bloggers and their readers than toward surfers.

Those of you who like to try new playtoys might want to give it a look-see.

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Great, does this mean were going to have a new browser to code for inconsistences in! ( no I realise it's built on the Mozilla core) Smile

Can't be doing with upsetting my carefully tuned systems with beta code, but would be interested in reading from time to time as to how your getting on with it, yeah ok I just like someone else to take the risks.

Shame they couldn't be a little more informative as to what it actually is,
why do I have to register a del.icio.us account and why do I have to have a blog?

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the delicious account is due to their "favourite" system - they're not stored on your PC, but on the net where anyone can get at them :roll:

frankly, I can 't stand Flock. It's just Firefox with a different theme, more stupid-people buttons and a big star button to add the page to favourites.

And massive bars at the top to aggregate RSS feeds.

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OK you haven't sold it to me so far TPH, I think I will stick with the 7 I've got so far.

What's the blogging aspect then?

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AFAIK it's just sort of a built in blogger thing . . . you can add stuff to Blogger instantly . . you know, kind of like the Blogit extension for Firefox.

To be honest, it seems all they've done is taken Firefox, added in the Sage and Blogit extensions, added a stupid favourites system, a new theme and called it Flock.

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Is that in 'Flock Wallpaper' (to denote the theme) or as in 'lets all flock to use it'.

Sorry to appear really shallow but I just don't like the name so could never use it Smile and if it does indeed have a flock wallpaper theme then I couldn't use it as it would be like sitting in a dingy Victorian parlour.

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Laughing out loud :D Laughing out loud no idea whatsoever why it's called Flock . . . but I'll stick to Firefox (as it's basically the EXACT SAME THING!)

Out of interest, any idea how it fares in the Acid2 test?

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Instead of dowlnloading flock, use firefox with the flock theme:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=332380

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50 million downloads of Flock by Friendster users!

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But it works in IE!
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You have to be kidding, downloading binaries? I don't think so.

Anyway I thought Friendster only claimed 19 million members.

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Downloading binaries? Of course. What would surprise me is if any Windows user were to download source, and roll their own binaries. I'm a Gnu/Linux user, and I wouldn't do that as long as there's a Deb[1] package available.

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[1] OK, I did download Linux binaries for Firefox 1.5B.

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oh you know what I meant, get me binaries and source mixed up at times, thought it was all source code.
Anyhow what are you doing downloading binaries? wouldn't have thought you would stoop so low.

So whats your verdict is it worth downloading what does it bring to the party ? the instructions for building from source sound like a lot of fun might just give it a go just to prove I can be geeky and waste a few hours.

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I loaded it to Win, so no way do I want to compile there.

I haven't worked it out all that much, and probably won't.

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If you want a simpleton browser that allows easy blogging and rss stuff, then get flock.

Otherwise, carry on with the fox! (I am, I've uninstalled Flock)

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I don't think it holds out much for the web developer. Bloggers, otoh, may find it very handy.

I think that Epiphany, K-Melion, Beonex, AOL for Mac osX, Camino, Mozilla, Firefox, Netscape, Galeon, and Flock all point to the benefits afforded by the Gecko engine and Mozilla's flexible API and interface.

Any browser requirement is open to development and all are Mozilla at heart.

cheers for the niche developer,

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I guess rather than criticize Flock we should be praising Gecko for providing the engine decent browsers can be built on .

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/edit, odd it showed up fine for me...I guess I have it cached. Smile

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Hey Chris

That image appears to have gone the way of gremlins.

It is here though ...

Trevor

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Chris is making very enigmatic posts these days Smile

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Make like a duck, and flock off.
hehe
I've always wanted to say that. Laughing out loud

I'll stick to FF and their aggregator. kthxbai Laughing out loud

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kk5st wrote:
I don't think it holds out much for the web developer. Bloggers, otoh, may find it very handy.

You can get the Google toolbar for FireFox, and it comes with the Blog It! button. I'm not sure why you would need this.

Get Thunderbird!