I've decided to step into the open source world after being tethered to Microsoft for the past 5 years. I chose Ruby on Rails because I've been working with Microsoft's ASP.NET MVC framework and I really like the MVC design pattern. Just about every intro to RoR that I've found says "the RoR community is much more helpful than the Microsoft community" and "it's quicker to step into RoR than .NET because of the abundance of helpful sites and mailing lists and forums". Unfortunately, I've found the opposite to be true.
The RoR forums I've found so far have been all but dead or at best left to languish in a sea of spam. At least I know where to go if I need a knock-off handbag or fake *spam* shoes. I've posted a few questions in forums and, while I get views, I get no response.
One place where both communities tie for first place is that they both have very outdated articles that are no longer relevant. It was just easier for me to sift through the .NET articles because I'm familiar with it. I just get frustrated trying something from an article that no longer works and I don't know why (perhaps it's pertaining to Rails 2 or something like that).
At least on the .NET side there are slightly active communities. Neither have anything near PHPs ubiquity. I just don't like PHP. It's a severe step down from what I'm used to.
Is Rails dying? Should I cut my losses?
Rails is vibrant.
Welcome to the open source world. I think perhaps you're applying M$ world thinking to your expectations. Open source users don't "push their products", they use what works for them. Products that are truly excellent rise to the top. Rails has a vibrant community, so perhaps you're looking in the wrong places? where have you been looking? have you tried IRC? Sites like StackOverflow?
I like stack overflow
By "pushing a product" I mean "proclaiming the Ruby way" not selling something. If it's not a product worth pushing no wonder I can't find any good information or discussion.
I like stack overflow but it isn't a place to just ask non-specific questions or get general direction. Once I learn a bit more I'll surely go there.
I've been to railsforum.com but it's little more than a spammer haven. sitepoint.com has nearly zero activity in the ruby forum. Search results are mostly outdated articles. It just feels like a bad direction. Where is the vibrancy you mention?
IRC? Do people still use it? I haven't had an IRC client installed since 2003. What server and channel?
Thanks for the reply.
Google, Google, give me your answer true
Hi V. Google is your friend.
IRC is still a very viable resource, especially for open-source stuff. I don't use it all that much any more, as html/css/php has such a large developer base that is MSFT/Adobe oriented, and those people are simply not attuned (to a significant portion) to the hacker community, and use the forum medium. Another reason, that applies to me, is that I am no longer at my machines for very long at a time, and too many times, miss the responses; IRC being very much a pro tempore medium.
Nice. Crazy though. I
Nice. Crazy though. I really though IRC died long ago. All the channels went silent when they were replaced with ICQ, AIM, MSM, et al. I had no idea of the resurgence.
Forums make more sense to me for the reason you mention. I'm not chained to the desk anymore.