Mon, 2010-02-08 00:43
OK, this is the first test of my ASP.NET MVC content management system. If any errors pop up, let me know. This is the first time I've created a layout that wasn't one of my hobby sites, so don't expect much. Normally that's done by someone else and I just do the markup, CSS and backend programming. I'm not sure about the color of the font with the background of the main content section. Any suggestions welcome. Please do suggest layout changes.
Mon, 2010-02-08 00:57
#1
The header images are
BTW, the header images are "borrowed" and not intended for release.
Mon, 2010-02-08 14:49
#2
1. surely you can handle that
1. surely you can handle that one validation error.
2. You can do without so many divs. for example, you footer can be a simple paragraph tag.
3. that h3 should really be a paragraph, since its not really a heading at all.
4. whats up with all that JS with such a simple page?
5. I dont like the 3-d hor. rule thing you have in the background, doesnt really fit the design very well.
6. Consider making the h2 a different color then body text, and maybe even a different font.
7. That sidebar needs some attention. Needs more styling done to make it look good.
Its not bad, but not done either. keep at at!
Mon, 2010-02-08 17:14
#3
AH, I missed the encoding on
1. surely you can handle that one validation error.
AH, I missed the encoding on the specials output in the CMS. #1 fixed. How embarrassing. 
2. You can do without so many divs. for example, you footer can be a simple paragraph tag.
That's a good point. It should, in fact, be a paragraph. There are 8 divs left. Is that really too many?
3. that h3 should really be a paragraph, since its not really a heading at all.
The heading of the sidebar, maybe?
4. whats up with all that JS with such a simple page?
Just the cycle plugin and jQuery.
5. I dont like the 3-d hor. rule thing you have in the background, doesnt really fit the design very well.
It's moved since I changed the height of the header. It used to be right at the bottom of the cycling image.
6. Consider making the h2 a different color then body text, and maybe even a different font.
I'm considering making the body text background different. I'm not sure I like the color for readability. Opinions?
7. That sidebar needs some attention. Needs more styling done to make it look good.
Your suggestions are very wecome.
Its not bad, but not done either. keep at at!
Well, now you know why, in the past, I've left design to others. 
Mon, 2010-02-08 17:26
#4
Quote: That's a good point.
That's a good point. It should, in fact, be a paragraph. There are 8 divs left. Is that really too many?
lets take a look see...
1. #logo div doesnt need to be there, just style the img and span tags
2. #header doesnt need to be there.
3. #navbar doesnt need to be there.
4. #headerImage doent need to be there, and should be a list.
Keep in mind, you are not breaking any rules by using so many divs. Its just a matter of keeping the code clean.
I'm considering making the body text background different. I'm not sure I like the color for readability. Opinions?
My original statement remains my opinion. For design inspiration, I find myself searching other sites for ideas and inspiration. Go find some css galleries like csstea, or css vault. Dont copy what others do, just get inspired!
Mon, 2010-02-08 19:07
#5
Better?
I dumped a few of the divs and reworked the CSS to match. Thanks for the tips.
I'll work on the sidebar a bit and see if I can come up with anything. There is supposed to be an image that goes with each daily special that should liven things up a bit.
Mon, 2010-02-08 20:20
#6
Ugh, I really hate how some
Ugh, I really hate how some platforms render fonts. Some aren't even readable.
Mon, 2010-02-08 22:28
#7
asking for it wrote: Be
Be Brutal and Honest
Oh I intend on being 
Now I want a 500 word essay on "why I think my document outline is correct"
Tue, 2010-02-09 01:52
#8
Hugo wrote: asking for it he
Be Brutal and Honest
Oh I intend on being
Now I want a 500 word essay on "why I think my document outline is correct"
Hmm. Taking CTJ's suggestion on the H3 and ... 
Tue, 2010-02-09 11:15
#9
hmm didn't read that bit,
hmm didn't read that bit, rushing to try and be brutal and honest 
As you were then nothing left for me to add most disappointing too little to pick up on, you might have left a comment before the DTD or something.
Tue, 2010-02-09 12:12
#10
Hugo wrote: hmm didn't read
hmm didn't read that bit, rushing to try and be brutal and honest
As you were then nothing left for me to add most disappointing too little to pick up on, you might have left a comment before the DTD or something.
It's almost as if you lump me into "those hated backend developers". I'm not that plebeian. 
Tue, 2010-02-09 13:26
#11
No no not hate, simply
No no not hate, simply despise 
despise anyone who can't be arsed to learn a craft fully, don't have to be an expert in all areas but have to have a good grasp.
Tue, 2010-02-09 13:40
#12
LOL...I kept wondering what I
LOL...I kept wondering what I was getting with that chook staring at me as the flash was loading!
It's almost as if you lump me into "those hated backend developers". I'm not that plebeian.
Believe it or not, that was almost high praise
You've asked about the text a couple of times - I think the contrast is fine but something is off and I think it's the *gasp* text is a whisker too big for the leading in this case. Try 96% or 97% or something. It's going to be difficult if you're trying to keep that page above the fold. Need to see it in English too really.
My 2c
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Tue, 2010-02-09 13:49
#13
Smee wrote: LOL...I kept
LOL...I kept wondering what I was getting with that chook staring at me as the flash was loading! ...
Flash? FLASH?!?!?! 
... Need to see it in English too really. ...
You'd be surprised as how many people ask me what language that is. LOL
Tue, 2010-02-09 13:56
#14
Oops... should have thought
Oops... should have thought you wouldn't use it...you should also know by now that I can't tell - didn't look at the code ergo changing pics must be flash LOL - well it is past pumpkin time (midnight).
Nooo...I did realise it's some Ipsum but I've seen that question too
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Tue, 2010-02-09 14:06
#15
I really just should use
I really just should use
This is filler text to show you what the paragraphs will look like, honest. No need to read any more. It's just filler text. I needed to fill the space. If you could be bothered to pay for my service this could possibly be changed to relevant text that may or may not concern your business. Actually, I wouldn't care what is here after you pay because I'm gone. Maybe I'll hit the booze store and celebrate this paragraph. Maybe I'll hire a lady of the night. Maybe I'll donate to a charity or go to church and confess the drunken lusts of the other occurrences you've allowed me by paying. Thank you. End.
What do you think? That should stop the questions.
Tue, 2010-02-09 14:14
#16
Perfick!! Oh that they would
Perfick!! Oh that they would pay you so that you could go and enjoy all that you lust after.
After all...don't ask, don't get.
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Tue, 2010-02-16 08:22
#17
how long did it take you to
how long did it take you to complete it?
Tue, 2010-02-16 22:52
#18
scept1c wrote: how long did
how long did it take you to complete it?
Twenty one minutes.