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Hey!

Don´t know if this is the right place to ask, but I do it.

I want to know how you do when a client want a webpage from you.
Do you do the webpage and the client have to be satisfied with it, or do you work together with the client until the client is satisfied? How much do you people "control" the work?

How about the copyright of the webpage? If you´re paid (or not) for the webpage; thas it matter?
Is it just you that can make changes to the page (after you given the webpage away)?
Or is it then up to the client what he/she wants to do with the webpage?

I am a little bit afraid that my client can have somebody else to do the changes, to the webpage I have made for he/she after I´ve been paid. Is that okey?

Other thouhgts about this? Have I forget something?

Thanx!! Cool

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photomoon wrote: I want to

photomoon wrote:

I want to know how you do when a client want a webpage from you.
Do you do the webpage and the client have to be satisfied with it, or do you work together with the client until the client is satisfied? How much do you people "control" the work?

Ultimately you want the client to be very happy with the finished product. Most of the time the client doesnt know what best, and you need to educate them on the best practices. But in the end, the client is the one who signs your paycheck.

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How about the copyright of the webpage?

If the client is paying you to create web site graphics and all, they site belongs to them. You really need to have a contract. They paid for the services you provided. If they did not pay a dime, everything belongs to you unless you pass the rights on to another party.

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I am a little bit afraid that my client can have somebody else to do the changes, to the webpage I have made for he/she after I´ve been paid. Is that okey?

Thats fine. They own the rights to the site, and can do whatever they want. Just keep backups of everything in case things get messed up and they come crawling back to you.

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As far as copyright goes,

As far as copyright goes, anyone can copy and paste your HTML and CSS output... it's open source.
In my contracts though I stipulate that if an application is developed I retain the rights to reuse that backend code as long as it is not in direct competition with that client.

If another client comes to me with a project that could be ascertained as being competition I rewrite every line of code from scratch so that there is a very slim chance that it will be at all replicated.

As far as working with the client, a lot of people/companies do this differently.
So provide a set price and within that price is a set number of comps that will be supplied based off of client input. They then choose one and move forward.

Others will work directly with a client and alter the design as necessary until they are happy with the design and then move forward, these people usually charge by the hour.

From my point of view, they 100% control the output, but as the professional you want them to understand that you understand the best practices, you do don't you?
And that you will gladly take their advice as to what they want done, but you will voice your opinion if you do not believe they are heading in the appropriate direction.

I usually find it unprofessional to "tag" another person's site with your link, unless this is part of your payment, or if this is an internal application and you are linking to the parent company that owns the web app. Most people consider this "an inbound link for SEO", but inbound links are really only good if they are relevant, and I'm not sure how relevant a link for the local seafood restaurant is going to be when it links to your web design website.

As far as modifications and updates go, if it is stipulated in your contract that they will contact you in regards to updates then so be it, otherwise the client has full rights to hire anyone they want to make the required necessary updates to their site. You may find it hard to get/keep clients if you strong arm them into modification contracts though.

basically comes down to, if you plan on doing this for a long term thing and wish to make a living off of it, make sure you speak with a local business attorney and have them write you up a business contract make the stipulations you want, including rate, min/max hours, revisions/modifications/updates, maintenance of applications including bug fixes, hacks, etc.... there are a lot of things to keep in mind... hosting, payment dates, court you wish to use if the project falls through and you get sued or you sue the client, blah blah blah... My contract is about 7 pages, but it also has a lot of coverage for the client too... don't just think about your self.

I won't take my client's clients. I support all products I custom develop for bugs. A lots of other things.

My number one thought process as far as your questions are concerned would be to talk to a lawyer. Find other professionals in your area and get referrals from them. Most attorneys will provide an initial free consultation, see if you like them and get along and get a sense of trust. See if they can provide you with referrals to his clients who can give a testimonial for him...

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