Tue, 2010-03-09 14:46
I am very new to CSS, and I'm slowly deploying it on my website, bit by bit. For now, I have a frameset, because I am not yet good enough at CSS to replace it. I'm aware that it is being deprecated, so I do plan to attack that subject eventually. For now I'm just trying to teach myself to build pages that don't rely on tables for layout. 
One question I do not see answered is whether frameset widths can be set by CSS. I see lots of "how to mimic framesets in CSS" when I google the subject, which creates the inference that true frameset properties cannot be handled by CSS. But I've not seen any specific answer to that question. Can anyone advise whether it's possible to set frameset column widths?
Thanks in advance for any help!
Elizabeth
Wed, 2010-03-10 01:39
#1
Framesets are not "being"
Framesets are not "being" deprecated, they already are deprecated. That doesn't mean you can't use them and browsers will generally render them, but nevertheless you are just storing up trouble for yourself. Learning frames is just a total waste of time when you could be learning to do things right. Every moment you spend using frames is a moment wasted.
Learn to do things correctly from the start.
I mean, it's your life, but why do you want to waste your time learning dead end code techniques?
Wed, 2010-03-10 03:02
#2
Perhaps look into server side
Perhaps look into server side includes to call different files.
If your server has PHP, then it's quite easy to put the code for your sidebar in a separate file and then include it in your pages. (This is the closest thing I can think with regards to frames).
But yeah, jump in head first to CSS - once you get it, it's so much easier and you have a lot more control over your layout.
Wed, 2010-03-10 04:34
#3
davestone wrote: If your
If your server has PHP, then it's quite easy to put the code for your sidebar in a separate file and then include it in your pages. (This is the closest thing I can think with regards to frames).
Yep, my server supports PHP and I think I can figure out how to do that. Thanks so much for your help and kind advice.
Wed, 2010-03-10 10:47
#4
This is the closest to
This is the closest to replacing the nature and point of frames, however PHP includes do not simply act as frames only refreshing/reloading the main frame rather than links frame, often this is perceived as a problem, it's not reloading all the page is NOT an issue nowadays and most sites work this way that use server side languages. Frames are utterly obsolete and also hinder search engines in some respects, no one uses them any longer.
Sat, 2010-03-13 21:52
#5
Good point Hugo. I wasn't
Good point Hugo. I wasn't clear that the includes would replace the need for frames. That way the include files can be edited separately and the changes would affect the entire site at once. But, I'm sure you know this already. 
Sun, 2010-03-14 12:34
#6
I did actually figure out how
I did actually figure out how to write an "include" statement, and conceptually, it is working precisely as I would like. Mechanically, I misunderstood what content to "include," but that is being addressed in another thread. Thanks for the excellent tip, Dave.
Elizabeth