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I managed to install my old downloaded copy of Opera 6.01 to do some testing and strangely enough these forums don't show as expected in it. There is a huge vertical gap(a pages length) between the header and the actual forums. Has anyone noticed this ? I haven't come across this behaviour as I have visited other phpbb forums to verify if it was the browser version I have. I have attached a screen shot for you to have a look. Hope this helps.

cheers, Jeffery

http//melbourne.ug.php.net

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Opera 6

Hi paCkeTroUTer,
That's a great picture Laughing out loud

It works in Opera7, I must say I'm a little slack on the testing side of things and hadn't checked in Opera 6.

Most forums use tables for everything, tables within tables just to position an image. I made some changes to this site which took out most of the tables used for layout and positioning.
In doing so I was not really concerned if all browsers would render the page exactly the same. I did try to make it readable in as many browsers as possible.
Is it readable in Opera6? Uhmm, It reads fine if you scroll down, so I suppose it is still sort of readable.

When I get some time and motivation I will see if I can find an easy fix.
Thanks for pointing it out.

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Forum looks Strange in Opera 6.01

Opera 7 is the only version that shows this forum without the vertical gap. Get rid of the height:100% and the gap disappears. Why do you have so many inline style attributes?! You can put them in an external style sheet. Still too many tables.

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Forum looks Strange in Opera 6.01

Hi TjayRed,
Firstly I didn't write this whole PHPBB system from scratch.

I do understand that I could use external style sheets and are doing so.

Inline styles are useful when developing or tweaking a system as you can see exactly what you are affecting and only need to look at one file.
Really it comes down to personal choice when choosing inline, external or a combination of styles.

Due to the complex structure and templating system, changing styles externally can produce problems on other pages unless you are sure of exactly what's on each page so I chose a combo approach. Smile

As for tables I agree that there is a lot of tables in this system, I have removed many but must consider many issues when changing a system developed externally such as how will it affect upgrades from the original developer and other modifications.

Really the aim isn't to remove all tables as tables still have their place in web development when displaying tabular data, which is what much of the forum is.

I have other priorities at the moment having this site display correctly in Opera 6 is way down the list.

Hope that has answered your questions.

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Fix fir Opera 3? 4-5-6 Gap in IE5 also

I can understand you've probably got a lot on your plate. I don't expect you to remove all the tables and rewrite the entire system from scratch, that would be a major task. Really all of that wasn't relevant to the opera fix, sorry to waste your time with that.

<div class="bodyline" style="padding:10px;">
    <div style="clear:both; font-size:.8em;">
        <div style="float:left; width:40%; [b]height:100%[/b];">
            <a href="http://www.csscreator.com/css-forum src="templates/subSilverCSS/images/cssf-logo.gif" border="0" alt="CSS Forum Index" vspace="1" /></a>
        </div>
         <div class="welcome">

Look at line three:

style="float:left; width:40%; height:100%;

is the one causing the problem. Removing the 100% height fixes the page in all versions of opera. The solution appears to be so simple. It looks like this gap appears in IE 5 and is also solved by removing the 100%. Two birds with one stone.

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Forum looks Strange in Opera 6.01

Thanks TjayRed,
I made the suggested change and all seems to be correct.
Thanks for pointing out the solution.
I also changed the doctype which is something I was sure I had done months before :roll: